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From: Rick Jones on 14 Dec 2009 15:53 In sci.space.history Jonathan <Home(a)again.net> wrote: > Maybe, but keeping a secret could mean fraud or it could mean a > breakthrough, we don't know for sure. But the electric company P G > & E, one of the largest utilities in the nation, while considering > the contract should be privy to the details of the technology. Even if they were/are, PG&E, while do doubt staffed by some very inteligent folks, are not known to have "space" as part of their core competency. They know electricity, boilers, fision, coal, gas, oil, wires, even I suspect photovoltaics, but are new to rocket science. rick jones -- firebug n, the idiot who tosses a lit cigarette out his car window these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :) feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH...
From: Rick Jones on 14 Dec 2009 15:58 In sci.space.history Pat Flannery <flanner(a)daktel.com> wrote: > Jorge R. Frank wrote: > > That's correct. The beam power density will be about one-fourth > > the solar constant. Even then, the aircraft hull is a perfect > > Faraday cage against the frequencies of the beam. > As long as it's all metal, yes. But with the increasing use of > non-metallic composites in aircraft structures that might bear some > looking into. When they were designing the B-2 stealth bomber, one > area of concern was how a lightning strike would affect its > composite skinning. Given it is, presumably, on the verge of its maiden flight, and unless is a complete flop will vastly outnumber the B2 in numbers of passenger miles flown, mentioning the Boeing 787 is probably worthwhile. rick jones -- Wisdom Teeth are impacted, people are affected by the effects of events. these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :) feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH...
From: Androcles on 14 Dec 2009 16:08 "Rick Jones" <rick.jones(a)hp.com> wrote in message news:hg68js$9j9$1(a)usenet01.boi.hp.com... > In sci.space.history Jonathan <Home(a)again.net> wrote: >> Maybe, but keeping a secret could mean fraud or it could mean a >> breakthrough, we don't know for sure. But the electric company P G >> & E, one of the largest utilities in the nation, while considering >> the contract should be privy to the details of the technology. > > Even if they were/are, PG&E, while do doubt staffed by some very > inteligent folks, are not known to have "space" as part of their core > competency. They know electricity, boilers, fision, coal, gas, oil, > wires, even I suspect photovoltaics, but are new to rocket science. > > rick jones Everyone else is new to rocket science except Rick Jones, he's been around rockets since 1814. "And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air, Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there. Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam, In full glory reflected now shines in the stream: 'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave." -- Francis Scott Key, 1814 You'll be 200 years old in 4 years, Jones. No wonder you know so much about rocket science.
From: Rick Jones on 14 Dec 2009 17:18 In sci.space.history Androcles <Headmaster(a)hogwarts.physics_q> wrote: > Everyone else is new to rocket science except Rick Jones, > he's been around rockets since 1814. > "And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air, > Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there. > Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam, > In full glory reflected now shines in the stream: > 'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave > O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave." > -- Francis Scott Key, 1814 Francis always did have a way with words. > You'll be 200 years old in 4 years, Jones. No wonder you know so > much about rocket science. Your flattery of those of us in the peanut gallery is apreciated, if perhaps premature... Phil: Well maybe the *real* God uses tricks, you know? Maybe he's not omnipotent. He's just been around so long he knows everything. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/quotes 'cause I ain't there, yet. rick jones -- I don't interest myself in "why". I think more often in terms of "when", sometimes "where"; always "how much." - Joubert these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :) feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH...
From: Sylvia Else on 14 Dec 2009 17:49
Uncle Al wrote: > Sylvia Else wrote: >> Uncle Al wrote: >> >>> 80% bullshit business plan number for RF >>> conversion >> At 80%, the remaining 20%, or 80MW, is heat that has to be got rid of, >> by radiation alone. >> >> Sylvia. > > Given 0% carbon footprint, 80 MW continuous ground heating cannot add > to Global Warming. Besides, it is add over a broad area. It's not > like lighting a candle or grilling a steak - both of which are > Enviro-whiner atrocities. > I wasn't talking about on the ground. If the space side conversion of generated power to microwaves is only 80% efficient, then there's 20% loss in heat. That heat has to be got rid of, or the system will melt. Given that it's in a vacuum, the heat has to be got rid of entirely by radiation. Sylvia. |