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From: John E. on 3 Mar 2007 12:35 Jan Panteltje sez: > Na, if you publish the code (I once did) then they also want a free > programmer. Please don't let a few "can't do it"s keep you from putting up a creative PIC code solution. There's many of us who would delve into the magic PIC world if a programming solution was offered that was tempting enough. Some day... -- John (PIC virgin) English
From: Palindrome on 3 Mar 2007 13:25 John E. wrote: > Jan Panteltje sez: > > >>Na, if you publish the code (I once did) then they also want a free >>programmer. > > > Please don't let a few "can't do it"s keep you from putting up a creative PIC > code solution. There's many of us who would delve into the magic PIC world if > a programming solution was offered that was tempting enough. > > Some day... Can I suggest: http://www.magenta2000.co.uk/kits/870.htm It comes with a huge set of tutorial examples, starting from the extremely simple. Each example fully works but is meant to be modified, so that you learn by making small changes and proving that they work - rather than try to get a whole program right from scratch. I've recommended it to a few people that had never written a line of code before - and every one got on well with it. The final examples are *demanding* - highly advanced techniques that really take some understanding, so it is a good kit for someone who can manage simple stuff, but wants to get to grips with more of the features that PICs provide. My latest little PIC project controls my central heating, hot water and heat exchangers. It sits on my LAN, so I can monitor and control everything from anywhere - even the office. Even your office. -- Sue -- Sue
From: Rich Grise on 3 Mar 2007 14:03 On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:25:38 +0000, Palindrome wrote: > John E. wrote: >> Jan Panteltje sez: >> >>>Na, if you publish the code (I once did) then they also want a free >>>programmer. >> >> Please don't let a few "can't do it"s keep you from putting up a >> creative PIC code solution. There's many of us who would delve into the >> magic PIC world if a programming solution was offered that was tempting >> enough. >> >> Some day... > > Can I suggest: > > http://www.magenta2000.co.uk/kits/870.htm > > It comes with a huge set of tutorial examples, starting from the extremely > simple. Each example fully works but is meant to be modified, so that you > learn by making small changes and proving that they work - rather than try > to get a whole program right from scratch. > > I've recommended it to a few people that had never written a line of code > before - and every one got on well with it. > > The final examples are *demanding* - highly advanced techniques that > really take some understanding, so it is a good kit for someone who can > manage simple stuff, but wants to get to grips with more of the features > that PICs provide. > > My latest little PIC project controls my central heating, hot water and > heat exchangers. It sits on my LAN, so I can monitor and control > everything from anywhere - even the office. Even your office. > It's nice to know that there are starter kits that, well, continue. :-) In fact, the first (and only) time I won the blue ribbon at the science fair, my folks had gotten me a 1-transistor "starter kit", which I enhanced by buying a transistor and enhancing the circuit based on stuff that I had read. But I'm prejudiced against the PIC, because I believe that bank switching is evil. Thanks! Rich [ ;-) ]
From: Spehro Pefhany on 3 Mar 2007 14:53 On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:03:06 GMT, the renowned Rich Grise <rich(a)example.net> wrote: >On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:25:38 +0000, Palindrome wrote: >> John E. wrote: >>> Jan Panteltje sez: >>> >>>>Na, if you publish the code (I once did) then they also want a free >>>>programmer. >>> >>> Please don't let a few "can't do it"s keep you from putting up a >>> creative PIC code solution. There's many of us who would delve into the >>> magic PIC world if a programming solution was offered that was tempting >>> enough. >>> >>> Some day... >> >> Can I suggest: >> >> http://www.magenta2000.co.uk/kits/870.htm >> >> It comes with a huge set of tutorial examples, starting from the extremely >> simple. Each example fully works but is meant to be modified, so that you >> learn by making small changes and proving that they work - rather than try >> to get a whole program right from scratch. >> >> I've recommended it to a few people that had never written a line of code >> before - and every one got on well with it. >> >> The final examples are *demanding* - highly advanced techniques that >> really take some understanding, so it is a good kit for someone who can >> manage simple stuff, but wants to get to grips with more of the features >> that PICs provide. >> >> My latest little PIC project controls my central heating, hot water and >> heat exchangers. It sits on my LAN, so I can monitor and control >> everything from anywhere - even the office. Even your office. >> > >It's nice to know that there are starter kits that, well, continue. :-) >In fact, the first (and only) time I won the blue ribbon at the science >fair, my folks had gotten me a 1-transistor "starter kit", which I >enhanced by buying a transistor and enhancing the circuit based on stuff >that I had read. > >But I'm prejudiced against the PIC, because I believe that bank switching >is evil. So, use the 18F or 24 series. There's not much spam^H^H^H^H bank switching in it/them. >Thanks! >Rich >[ ;-) ] Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff(a)interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
From: John E. on 4 Mar 2007 04:44
Rich Grise sez: > But I'm prejudiced against the PIC, because I believe that bank switching > is evil. What's your flavor of evil? What PIC-competitor do you favor? -- John English |