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From: john on 31 May 2010 21:54
On May 30, 6:13 am, Chris Vine <ch...(a)cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 2010 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
> "j...(a)wexfordpress.com" <j...(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> > I have version 13.0. I use XFCE. The release announcement for 13.1
> > mentions XFCE ahead of KDE 4, a useful hint for those not prepared for
> > the cryptic and sluggish KDE4.
>
> > What I am hoping to see on Slack is an automatic and foolproof
> > wireless connection equivalent to the one I found on Knoppix. Using
> > 13.0 I did a lot of extra work to get wireless working on the family
> > laptop, and after a while it stopped working. OTOH Knoppix has a
> > wireless connection without difficulty and without extra effort. So I
> > installed Knoppix on the hard drive instead.  Works fine.
>
> > Slackware needs to have a more foolproof and reliable wireless hookup.
> > It should be a standard feature and not an add-on. Laptops are
> > increasingly the computer of choice for many. The 13.1 release
> > announcement does not mention wireless connection upgrades.
>
> > I'll upgrade XFCE separately since that is the interface I use.
>
> The extras directory has wicd in it.  That makes setting up wireless
> relatively trivial (similar to the graphical interfaces used by other
> operating systems we shall not mention). You should make yourself a
> member of the netdev group.
>
> Chris

Yes Yes, I downloaded wicd and the Broadcom drivers, and after much
fiddling got wireless to work for a week or two. Then it stopped
working. Just for a test I booted a Knoppix disk. It found wireless
right away. So I installed Knoppix to the hard drive. My wife likes it
much better than Slackware plus xfce (I wouldn't subject her to KDE4).

So I am of the opinion still. Slackware needs a reliable and out-of-
the-box wireless setup. Knoppix which is maintained by Klaus Knopper
has such a setup. With the increasing number of home wireless networks
it is pretty much a necessity.

John C.
From: Dan C on 31 May 2010 23:27
On Mon, 31 May 2010 18:54:24 -0700, john(a)wexfordpress.com wrote:

> So I am of the opinion still. Slackware needs a reliable and out-of-
> the-box wireless setup. Knoppix which is maintained by Klaus Knopper has
> such a setup. With the increasing number of home wireless networks it is
> pretty much a necessity.

Let me know when you finish development of this. I don't really want it,
or need it, but I'd like to see how long it takes you.

Oh! You were probably expecting someone else to do it for you, right?


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From: Martin on 1 Jun 2010 06:19
john(a)wexfordpress.com wrote:

> What I am hoping to see on Slack is an automatic and foolproof
> wireless connection equivalent to the one I found on Knoppix.

I agree, wireless support out-of-the-box could be better.

> Using
> 13.0 I did a lot of extra work to get wireless working on the family
> laptop, and after a while it stopped working.

I have done the same recently. In order to share the effort I put a write-up
on the web and had it linked to from tuxmobil.org.

http://www.frogge.de/pepper/p50ij/p50ij.html#wlan

It is still not totally end-user-proof as you still have to edit config
files whenever you move to a new access point with authentication. Wicd
alone is not the answer.

Martin

From: Mike Jones on 1 Jun 2010 08:00
Responding to john(a)wexfordpress.com:

> On May 30, 6:13 am, Chris Vine <ch...(a)cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>
>>
>> "j...(a)wexfordpress.com" <j...(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote:
>> > I have version 13.0. I use XFCE. The release announcement for 13.1
>> > mentions XFCE ahead of KDE 4, a useful hint for those not prepared
>> > for the cryptic and sluggish KDE4.
>>
>> > What I am hoping to see on Slack is an automatic and foolproof
>> > wireless connection equivalent to the one I found on Knoppix. Using
>> > 13.0 I did a lot of extra work to get wireless working on the family
>> > laptop, and after a while it stopped working. OTOH Knoppix has a
>> > wireless connection without difficulty and without extra effort. So I
>> > installed Knoppix on the hard drive instead.  Works fine.
>>
>> > Slackware needs to have a more foolproof and reliable wireless
>> > hookup. It should be a standard feature and not an add-on. Laptops
>> > are increasingly the computer of choice for many. The 13.1 release
>> > announcement does not mention wireless connection upgrades.
>>
>> > I'll upgrade XFCE separately since that is the interface I use.
>>
>> The extras directory has wicd in it.  That makes setting up wireless
>> relatively trivial (similar to the graphical interfaces used by other
>> operating systems we shall not mention). You should make yourself a
>> member of the netdev group.
>>
>> Chris
>
> Yes Yes, I downloaded wicd and the Broadcom drivers, and after much
> fiddling got wireless to work for a week or two. Then it stopped
> working. Just for a test I booted a Knoppix disk. It found wireless
> right away. So I installed Knoppix to the hard drive. My wife likes it
> much better than Slackware plus xfce (I wouldn't subject her to KDE4).
>
> So I am of the opinion still. Slackware needs a reliable and out-of-
> the-box wireless setup. Knoppix which is maintained by Klaus Knopper has
> such a setup. With the increasing number of home wireless networks it is
> pretty much a necessity.
>
> John C.


With Slackware's traditions, I don't see inserting other OS stuff into
Slackware as default software anything thats going to happen soon.

However, if some enterprising Slacker were to generate some Slack-ready
clones of things that have become pretty much "standardised", and upload
them to a Slack-resource URL, then this kind of problem could be solved
by secondary Slackware support resources, say slacky.eu, or Alien Bob's
stuff, or Robbie Workman's excellent resources, etc.

See VectorLinux\Zenwalk for more on how to integrate the good stuff.

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From: Helmut Hullen on 1 Jun 2010 08:17
Hallo, john,

Du meintest am 31.05.10:

> So I am of the opinion still. Slackware needs a reliable and out-of-
> the-box wireless setup. Knoppix which is maintained by Klaus Knopper
> has such a setup. With the increasing number of home wireless
> networks it is pretty much a necessity.

What about "RIP"?

http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/

It's now my favourite PXE LiveCD system.

And it offers "wireless configuration" per mouse click.

Viele Gruesse
Helmut

"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

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