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From: John John - MVP on 12 Apr 2010 07:43 William B. Lurie wrote: > And now the latest news: > I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM, > and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any > events to complain about. There was a repeat of the > 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement, > but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate, > or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were > looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from > hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you > hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer > association, and whatever else you may have removed. Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected the printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is responsible for the WIA events, remove the web cam and the printer, completely! Remove them and any software that was installed by them, you can reinstall them later... and this is only a clone so no harm done with anything that you do on it, so let't get these 2 things out of the picture completely! John
From: William B. Lurie on 13 Apr 2010 11:51 John John - MVP wrote: > > Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going on > at your end... > > The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of > the start values of some of the services but I note some inconsistencies: > > Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters > but who disabled this? > > Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to Auto? > You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that definitely you > are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the browse list, a > list of of all available servers on domains or a list of available > computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast > announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every 12 > minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a role > in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the network. > You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto? Maybe > someone wants this thing barking every 12 minutes.... > > lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and > printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to > disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it > from Disabled to Manual? > > LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer > software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to > wonder why is this service still present... > > psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What > software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A > quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting package, > I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually suggests that > it is part of some kind of database. And I have to wonder if this > database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service that seemed to > be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day. > > Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled. > Information on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might > be junk installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL > features... or that it might be unwanted junk related to adware. Without > knowing if you are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for the time > being. But as far as I'm concerned if you can live without it maybe you > should have it disabled. > > W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that > the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't > synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and > failing) to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for > that specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I see > that it is back... like the cat with nine lives... > > WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service > that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you > on a wireless network? You said that you are a standalone machine that > is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a > telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?). Is your printer > running on wireless? Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a > wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its wireless > functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the internet? > Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you have > 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router... > > Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were > 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other > commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you > to run, we'll give it another try. > > John Well,John, the only approach I can see that makes sense, is for you to give me a script file that will set all my services to what you want, and then I'll run ServiceStat.vbc and autoruns.exe and establish a baseline, and then I'll simply let it sit for 2 hours and run autoruns.exe again and report autostart.txt and we can see what was changed when I do nothing in between. Meanwhile, I'm waiting for your advice. I can't understand how the Events Log shows absolutely nothing happening in the two-hour period, so no reason for it not to obey the hibernate command......yet it jest doesn't do it.
From: Unknown on 13 Apr 2010 12:48 Not all 'events' are recorded but the hibernate time out clock is being reset.. "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message news:uxoL1Ey2KHA.1452(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > John John - MVP wrote: >> >> Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going on >> at your end... >> >> The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of >> the start values of some of the services but I note some inconsistencies: >> >> Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters >> but who disabled this? >> >> Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to Auto? >> You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that definitely you >> are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the browse list, a >> list of of all available servers on domains or a list of available >> computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast >> announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every 12 >> minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a role >> in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the network. >> You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto? Maybe someone >> wants this thing barking every 12 minutes.... >> >> lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and >> printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to >> disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it from >> Disabled to Manual? >> >> LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer >> software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to >> wonder why is this service still present... >> >> psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What >> software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A >> quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting package, >> I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually suggests that >> it is part of some kind of database. And I have to wonder if this >> database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service that seemed to >> be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day. >> >> Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled. Information >> on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might be junk >> installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL features... or >> that it might be unwanted junk related to adware. Without knowing if you >> are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for the time being. But as >> far as I'm concerned if you can live without it maybe you should have it >> disabled. >> >> W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that >> the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't >> synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and failing) >> to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for that >> specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I see that >> it is back... like the cat with nine lives... >> >> WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service >> that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you >> on a wireless network? You said that you are a standalone machine that >> is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a >> telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?). Is your printer >> running on wireless? Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a >> wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its wireless >> functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the internet? >> Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you have >> 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router... >> >> Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were >> 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other >> commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you to >> run, we'll give it another try. >> >> John > > Well,John, the only approach I can see that makes sense, is for you > to give me a script file that will set all my services to what you > want, and then I'll run ServiceStat.vbc and autoruns.exe and > establish a baseline, and then I'll simply let it sit for 2 hours > and run autoruns.exe again and report autostart.txt and we can see > what was changed when I do nothing in between. Meanwhile, I'm > waiting for your advice. > > I can't understand how the Events Log shows absolutely nothing > happening in the two-hour period, so no reason for it not to > obey the hibernate command......yet it jest doesn't do it.
From: William B. Lurie on 13 Apr 2010 13:01 Yes, and maybe John can devise a way to tell us why it is being reset. Unknown wrote: > Not all 'events' are recorded but the hibernate time out clock is being > reset.. > "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message > news:uxoL1Ey2KHA.1452(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> John John - MVP wrote: >>> Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going on >>> at your end... >>> >>> The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of >>> the start values of some of the services but I note some inconsistencies: >>> >>> Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters >>> but who disabled this? >>> >>> Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to Auto? >>> You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that definitely you >>> are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the browse list, a >>> list of of all available servers on domains or a list of available >>> computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast >>> announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every 12 >>> minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a role >>> in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the network. >>> You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto? Maybe someone >>> wants this thing barking every 12 minutes.... >>> >>> lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and >>> printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to >>> disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it from >>> Disabled to Manual? >>> >>> LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer >>> software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to >>> wonder why is this service still present... >>> >>> psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What >>> software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A >>> quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting package, >>> I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually suggests that >>> it is part of some kind of database. And I have to wonder if this >>> database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service that seemed to >>> be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day. >>> >>> Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled. Information >>> on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might be junk >>> installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL features... or >>> that it might be unwanted junk related to adware. Without knowing if you >>> are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for the time being. But as >>> far as I'm concerned if you can live without it maybe you should have it >>> disabled. >>> >>> W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that >>> the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't >>> synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and failing) >>> to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for that >>> specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I see that >>> it is back... like the cat with nine lives... >>> >>> WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service >>> that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you >>> on a wireless network? You said that you are a standalone machine that >>> is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a >>> telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?). Is your printer >>> running on wireless? Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a >>> wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its wireless >>> functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the internet? >>> Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you have >>> 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router... >>> >>> Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were >>> 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other >>> commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you to >>> run, we'll give it another try. >>> >>> John >> Well,John, the only approach I can see that makes sense, is for you >> to give me a script file that will set all my services to what you >> want, and then I'll run ServiceStat.vbc and autoruns.exe and >> establish a baseline, and then I'll simply let it sit for 2 hours >> and run autoruns.exe again and report autostart.txt and we can see >> what was changed when I do nothing in between. Meanwhile, I'm >> waiting for your advice. >> >> I can't understand how the Events Log shows absolutely nothing >> happening in the two-hour period, so no reason for it not to >> obey the hibernate command......yet it jest doesn't do it. > >
From: Unknown on 13 Apr 2010 13:40
Your XP is Professional? Did you install Windows Workgroup Engine? "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message news:OH8lwry2KHA.1624(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Yes, and maybe John can devise a way to tell us why > it is being reset. > > Unknown wrote: >> Not all 'events' are recorded but the hibernate time out clock is being >> reset.. >> "William B. Lurie" <billurie(a)nospam.net> wrote in message >> news:uxoL1Ey2KHA.1452(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> John John - MVP wrote: >>>> Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going >>>> on at your end... >>>> >>>> The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of >>>> the start values of some of the services but I note some >>>> inconsistencies: >>>> >>>> Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters >>>> but who disabled this? >>>> >>>> Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to >>>> Auto? You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that >>>> definitely you are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the >>>> browse list, a list of of all available servers on domains or a list of >>>> available computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast >>>> announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every >>>> 12 minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a >>>> role in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the >>>> network. You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto? >>>> Maybe someone wants this thing barking every 12 minutes.... >>>> >>>> lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and >>>> printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to >>>> disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it >>>> from Disabled to Manual? >>>> >>>> LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer >>>> software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to >>>> wonder why is this service still present... >>>> >>>> psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What >>>> software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A >>>> quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting >>>> package, I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually >>>> suggests that it is part of some kind of database. And I have to >>>> wonder if this database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service >>>> that seemed to be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day. >>>> >>>> Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled. >>>> Information on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might >>>> be junk installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL >>>> features... or that it might be unwanted junk related to adware. >>>> Without knowing if you are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for >>>> the time being. But as far as I'm concerned if you can live without it >>>> maybe you should have it disabled. >>>> >>>> W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that >>>> the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't >>>> synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and >>>> failing) to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for >>>> that specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I >>>> see that it is back... like the cat with nine lives... >>>> >>>> WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service >>>> that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you >>>> on a wireless network? You said that you are a standalone machine that >>>> is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a >>>> telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?). Is your printer >>>> running on wireless? Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a >>>> wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its >>>> wireless functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the >>>> internet? Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you >>>> have 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router... >>>> >>>> Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were >>>> 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other >>>> commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you >>>> to run, we'll give it another try. >>>> >>>> John >>> Well,John, the only approach I can see that makes sense, is for you >>> to give me a script file that will set all my services to what you >>> want, and then I'll run ServiceStat.vbc and autoruns.exe and >>> establish a baseline, and then I'll simply let it sit for 2 hours >>> and run autoruns.exe again and report autostart.txt and we can see >>> what was changed when I do nothing in between. Meanwhile, I'm >>> waiting for your advice. >>> >>> I can't understand how the Events Log shows absolutely nothing >>> happening in the two-hour period, so no reason for it not to >>> obey the hibernate command......yet it jest doesn't do it. >> |