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From: robert.waters on 2 Feb 2010 13:08
On Nov. 19, 2003 Bruce Sanderson posted in this group:
"In the current version of the Windows 2003 Terminal Services License
Server,
there is no mechanism to track the association between Users and Per
User
License Tokens (as there is for tracking the association between
"devices"
and Per Device CAL tokens). This means that the Terminal Server
Licensing
tool always shows 0 (zero) Per User licenses issued. "

Does this mean that a combined 2003 Terminal Server/2003 TS License
Server with 1 Per-User CAL can effectively serve an unlimited amount
of users?

Thanks.
From: Silvia Doomra [MSFT] on 3 Feb 2010 00:49
This is against EULA.

"robert.waters" <robert.waters(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2201bdba-e0ff-4f66-8b62-287d856b114c(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov. 19, 2003 Bruce Sanderson posted in this group:
> "In the current version of the Windows 2003 Terminal Services License
> Server,
> there is no mechanism to track the association between Users and Per
> User
> License Tokens (as there is for tracking the association between
> "devices"
> and Per Device CAL tokens). This means that the Terminal Server
> Licensing
> tool always shows 0 (zero) Per User licenses issued. "
>
> Does this mean that a combined 2003 Terminal Server/2003 TS License
> Server with 1 Per-User CAL can effectively serve an unlimited amount
> of users?
>
> Thanks.

From: robert.waters on 3 Feb 2010 12:04
On Feb 3, 12:49 am, "Silvia Doomra [MSFT]" <sdoo...(a)microsoft.com>
wrote:
> This is against EULA.
>
> "robert.waters" <robert.wat...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2201bdba-e0ff-4f66-8b62-287d856b114c(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov. 19, 2003 Bruce Sanderson posted in this group:
> > "In the current version of the Windows 2003 Terminal Services License
> > Server,
> > there is no mechanism to track the association between Users and Per
> > User
> > License Tokens (as there is for tracking the association between
> > "devices"
> > and Per Device CAL tokens).  This means that the Terminal Server
> > Licensing
> > tool always shows 0 (zero) Per User licenses issued. "
>
> > Does this mean that a combined 2003 Terminal Server/2003 TS License
> > Server with 1 Per-User CAL can effectively serve an unlimited amount
> > of users?
>
> > Thanks.

I am not planning on actually doing it, I am trying to win an
argument. I am responsible for a 2003 TS with 15 per-user TSCALs and
the license manager records zero usage.
According to my boss, this means that *I* screwed up something and I
need to prove him wrong. At the very least (he believes) I caused him
to waste money on licenses he didnt need.
Here's a pic from the server (ts license manager) with users logged
in: http://imgur.com/N3V8a.jpg

Can anyone confirm this for me?
From: Vera Noest [MVP] on 3 Feb 2010 15:35
"robert.waters" <robert.waters(a)gmail.com> wrote on 03 feb 2010 in
microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> On Feb 3, 12:49�am, "Silvia Doomra [MSFT]"
> <sdoo...(a)microsoft.com> wrote:
>> This is against EULA.
>>
>> "robert.waters" <robert.wat...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:2201bdba-e0ff-4f66-8b62-287d856b114c(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegrou
>> ps.com...
>>
>> > On Nov. 19, 2003 Bruce Sanderson posted in this group:
>> > "In the current version of the Windows 2003 Terminal Services
>> > License Server,
>> > there is no mechanism to track the association between Users
>> > and Per User
>> > License Tokens (as there is for tracking the association
>> > between "devices"
>> > and Per Device CAL tokens). �This means that the Terminal
>> > Server Licensing
>> > tool always shows 0 (zero) Per User licenses issued. "
>>
>> > Does this mean that a combined 2003 Terminal Server/2003 TS
>> > License Server with 1 Per-User CAL can effectively serve an
>> > unlimited amount of users?
>>
>> > Thanks.
>
> I am not planning on actually doing it, I am trying to win an
> argument. I am responsible for a 2003 TS with 15 per-user
> TSCALs and the license manager records zero usage.
> According to my boss, this means that *I* screwed up something
> and I need to prove him wrong. At the very least (he believes)
> I caused him to waste money on licenses he didnt need.
> Here's a pic from the server (ts license manager) with users
> logged in: http://imgur.com/N3V8a.jpg
>
> Can anyone confirm this for me?

Yes, you are right, technically you don't need any license, as soon
as you configure the Terminal Server to use the Per User licensing
mode, it will only check that it can access a Licensing Server (not
sure if it does even that), and then it will allow the user(s) to
connect.
But as Silvia pointed out, this is a violation of the EULA.
_________________________________________________________
Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
RDS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net
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