From: Hammy on
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:43:46 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Tim Williams wrote:
>> Get a few of these. Junk or surplus preferred, but hell, they're pretty cheap new.
>>
>> http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=8954935
>>
>
>$10 is cheap? That's more than a six-pack of the good stuff.


Agreed I'd need about fifty bucks worth of them, which is more then I
want to spend.

From: Baron on
Hammy Inscribed thus:

> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:43:46 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Tim Williams wrote:
>>> Get a few of these. Junk or surplus preferred, but hell, they're
>>> pretty cheap new.
>>>
>>> http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=8954935
>>>
>>
>>$10 is cheap? That's more than a six-pack of the good stuff.
>
>
> Agreed I'd need about fifty bucks worth of them, which is more then I
> want to spend.

How about a couple of yards of electric fire bar element.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
From: Sjouke Burry on
Hammy wrote:
> What is something cheap and simple that can be used to dissapate 300W
> on a 200Vdc bus. I'm trying to think of something I could maybe pick
> up at a local homedepot or similiar.
>
> I need a 300W load to test out my PFC.
wire a few car headlights together, each is 50-70W.
From: krw on
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:56:36 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Martin Riddle wrote:
>> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:8ae3skFnekU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> Hammy wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:37:28 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hammy wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:00:35 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hammy wrote:
>>>>>>>> What is something cheap and simple that can be used to dissapate
>>>>>>>> 300W
>>>>>>>> on a 200Vdc bus. I'm trying to think of something I could maybe
>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>> up at a local homedepot or similiar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need a 300W load to test out my PFC.
>>>>>>> Light bulbs? Two in series and then as many of those in parallel
>>>>>>> as needed.
>>>>>> Sounds good one 60W bulb is about 200 ohms. ...
>>>>> At 200V each bulb gets only 100V so the resistance will be a little
>>>>> lower. You could measure that if it must be precise.
>>>> I don't need high precision if I can test at even 80% rated load and
>>>> maybe do some pulse test and off course use a CT to check the input
>>>> current I'll be happy.
>>>
>>> Well, just wanted to mention that because when at undervoltage the
>>> bulbs
>>> will present a higher load. Also, when you start any kind of converter
>>> from zero they will almost look like a short initially. Same if you
>>> connect a cold bulb (cold filament) to a running converter. It's not
>>> like a power resistor.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> ... I'll look around for some small cheap bulb mounts.
>>>>> You can also solder to them. If careful they can later still be used
>>>>> for
>>>>> their intended purpose. But make sure you place them onto a heat
>>>>> resistant surface during the test :-)
>>>> Your taking all the fun out of this :-)
>>>>
>>> The fun might come back when connecting the cold bulbs not two by two,
>>> but all at once. Tchk ... *POOF*.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Good news is you may not even have to drive all the way to Home
>>>>> Depot.
>>>>> Supermarkets also have a variety of them. Of course, then your wife
>>>>> might hand you a lengthy "while you are there anyhow" list and you
>>>>> don't
>>>>> get to look at all the new power tools, barbecues and stuff. Man's
>>>>> toy
>>>>> store ...
>>>> We call that a honey do list here.;-)
>>>>
>>> Nah, a honey-do list isn't grocery shooping, it's when the missus
>>> wants
>>> you to get that tree stump out over yonder, and it's 105F :-)
>>>
>>> --
>>
>>
>> Better pick up extra incandescent bulbs, comes 2014, you wont be able to
>> get them here in the US.

I already have a couple hundred clear 60W bulbs. I'll buy another couple of
hundred by 2012, which is when the ban goes into effect.

>Probably not quite. First, there'll be another election before then and
>... well, we'll see.

The ban was put in place BO. I doubt the Republicans will have the guts to
turn that one around.

>Then the ban extends down to 40W AFAIK. I am sure some clever business
>will start selling 39W light bulbs. The basic idea seems to come from

How about dual 30W filaments? Or perhaps 19/39(/58)? ;-)

>Poland:
>
>http://mojapolskadomowa.blox.pl/resource/zarwka99w.jpg
>
>A gray market might also develop. In Germany where 100W bulbs have been
>banned long since they are still happily selling them:
>
>http://www.lampenwelt.de/Leuchtmittel/Gluehlampen/E27-Gluehlampen/E27-15W-100W-Gluehlampe-matt.html



>As for frosted ones which were particularly frowned upon by regulators
>the page states "Bei Lampenwelt.de erhalten Sie matte Gl�hlampen noch
>aus gr��eren Restbest�nden. Lieferung sofort ab Lager solange der Vorrat
>reicht!" which means " ... frosted light bulbs from large overstock.
>Prompt delivery as long as stock lasts!". For some reason it must have
>lasted more than a year by now :-)
>
>Ban, compliance, two different things it seems.

Try buying a real toilet. Well, if you don't live near a Canuckistani
HomeDespot.
From: Hammy on
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:21:39 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

[SNIP]
>Try buying a real toilet. Well, if you don't live near a Canuckistani
>HomeDespot.

Yea we have Mohawks running bootleg booze and smokes across the lake
and yanks smuggling toilets back the other way.;-)