From: WindowsGeek on
I'm looking to branch out beyond the PIC chips that I've programmed in
the past. I'm looking for a 32 bit microcontroller with an external
memory bus.

Beyond those requirements, speed is probably the next concern. I'd
prefer something with16 bit ADC and DAC but I suppose that might be
asking a bit much. Of course, it has to cost nothing...

Seriously, I'm quite unfamiliar with the 32 bit microcontroller world
and trying to find a part with an external memory bus hasn't been as
easy as I thought it would be. It can be downright impossible to
determine from a mfr's literature which parts have the external bus
interface and which don't.

So I thought I'd come to the group for recommendations. I am a
hobbyist, and while I'm willing to spend some money on development
boards and tools, I'm not going to spend past 'this-is-fun' levels.

I appreciate your input!
From: Anton Erasmus on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:23:47 -0700 (PDT), WindowsGeek
<windowsgeek(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm looking to branch out beyond the PIC chips that I've programmed in
>the past. I'm looking for a 32 bit microcontroller with an external
>memory bus.
>
>Beyond those requirements, speed is probably the next concern. I'd
>prefer something with16 bit ADC and DAC but I suppose that might be
>asking a bit much. Of course, it has to cost nothing...
>
>Seriously, I'm quite unfamiliar with the 32 bit microcontroller world
>and trying to find a part with an external memory bus hasn't been as
>easy as I thought it would be. It can be downright impossible to
>determine from a mfr's literature which parts have the external bus
>interface and which don't.
>
>So I thought I'd come to the group for recommendations. I am a
>hobbyist, and while I'm willing to spend some money on development
>boards and tools, I'm not going to spend past 'this-is-fun' levels.
>
>I appreciate your input!

Atmel has a few 32-bit MCUs with external memory busses. Note that the
number of pins required for this functionality is quite high, so you
end up with quite large TQFP packages or BGA packages.
If it is for extra memory, then some have busses that can interface
directly to DDR RAM. If it is for external peripherals, then using 8
or 16 bit external busses are often fast enough.

Regards
Anton Erasmus
From: Oliver Betz on
WindowsGeek wrote:

>I'm looking to branch out beyond the PIC chips that I've programmed in
>the past. I'm looking for a 32 bit microcontroller with an external
>memory bus.

Lots of coldfire derivatives, the cheapest with external bus is likely
the Kirin 3 (MCF52259).

>Beyond those requirements, speed is probably the next concern. I'd

Runs at 80MHz, the internal Flash (512KiB) runs nearly without wait
states (2-1-1-1 IIRC), 64KiB internal RAM without wait states.

There are much faster derivatives.

>prefer something with16 bit ADC and DAC but I suppose that might be
>asking a bit much. Of course, it has to cost nothing...

I would be surprised if such a uC existed.

Oliver
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From: MK on

"WindowsGeek" <windowsgeek(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8999e323-dd9b-4ad5-9e14-dac3024f5c01(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking to branch out beyond the PIC chips that I've programmed in
> the past. I'm looking for a 32 bit microcontroller with an external
> memory bus.
>
> Beyond those requirements, speed is probably the next concern. I'd
> prefer something with16 bit ADC and DAC but I suppose that might be
> asking a bit much. Of course, it has to cost nothing...
>
> Seriously, I'm quite unfamiliar with the 32 bit microcontroller world
> and trying to find a part with an external memory bus hasn't been as
> easy as I thought it would be. It can be downright impossible to
> determine from a mfr's literature which parts have the external bus
> interface and which don't.
>
> So I thought I'd come to the group for recommendations. I am a
> hobbyist, and while I'm willing to spend some money on development
> boards and tools, I'm not going to spend past 'this-is-fun' levels.
>
> I appreciate your input!

STM32F ARM range (www.st.com) zillions of variants including some with
external memory interface but ony 12 bit ADC. Very cheap development tool
ST-LINK for about �17 - includes software. There are real tools too because
its an ARM.

Also Atmel Xmega (not 32 bit) - some have external DRAM interface which is
rare on an 8 bitter. There is a cheap dev board Xplain for about �30 and I
think that includes a debug tool via USB.

Michael Kellett



From: Didi on
On Apr 14, 9:28 am, Oliver Betz <ob...(a)despammed.com> wrote:
> WindowsGeek wrote:
> >I'm looking to branch out beyond the PIC chips that I've programmed in
> >the past. I'm looking for a 32 bit microcontroller with an external
> >memory bus.
>
> Lots of coldfire derivatives, the cheapest with external bus is likely
> the Kirin 3 (MCF52259).
>
> >Beyond those requirements, speed is probably the next concern. I'd
>
> Runs at 80MHz, the internal Flash (512KiB) runs nearly without wait
> states (2-1-1-1 IIRC), 64KiB internal RAM without wait states.
>
> There are much faster derivatives.

At about 3 times the cost ($36 single at Digikey, used to be $24...)
the MPC5200B is hard to beat on power/price.
Of course no ADC, but plenty of SPI, codec etc. intertfaces.

Dimiter

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