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From: mike on 3 Jun 2010 12:57 Meat Plow wrote: > > You might want to go to Wikipedia and do a little reading on the history > of SCSI devices. I used SCSI in my NT4 workstation back in 1997. > There have been several different varieties of SCSI developed in the past > decade or so and you'll need to identify the different connectors and how > to properly terminate the SCSI chain. good idea, I think I'll do that. Thanks, Mike
From: mike on 3 Jun 2010 13:04 AZ Nomad wrote: > Only thing with scsi is you have to address each drive, and have > termination at the end of the cable. > I ran scsi between 1995 and 2001. > > The various flavors of scsi (scsi-1, scsi-2, wide, ultrawide, fast, etc.) may > make matching controller to drive interesting if they're not already > matched. There's at least three different connectors I know of plus > varients that are differential or hotswappable. Hmm, scsi stuff must still be somewhat valuable no matter what the age, judging from the fact that I almost never find any at the local scrapyard - so far I've got one cable, one controller card and one drive, and I've been frequenting the scrapyard since about 1985. Well, I guess there could be some other reason for it, but that's what I conclude, at least so far...anyway, thanks for the info. Mike
From: Meat Plow on 3 Jun 2010 13:24 On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:04:06 -0700, mike ǝʇoɹʍ: > AZ Nomad wrote: > >> Only thing with scsi is you have to address each drive, and have >> termination at the end of the cable. >> I ran scsi between 1995 and 2001. >> >> The various flavors of scsi (scsi-1, scsi-2, wide, ultrawide, fast, >> etc.) may make matching controller to drive interesting if they're not >> already matched. There's at least three different connectors I know of >> plus varients that are differential or hotswappable. > > Hmm, scsi stuff must still be somewhat valuable no matter what the age, > judging from the fact that I almost never find any at the local > scrapyard - so far I've got one cable, one controller card and one > drive, and I've been frequenting the scrapyard since about 1985. Well, I > guess there could be some other reason for it, but that's what I > conclude, at least so far...anyway, thanks for the info. > > Mike My scrap bin has lots of SCSI stuff. Cables both internal and external, some Seagate 4.3 gig 7200 RPM drives, one is new. A couple Adaptec PCI cards, terminators, a Plextor SCSI CDRW, external SCSI drive enclosure I made from an IBM SCSI drive inside the case of a former HP external tape drive. My very first CDR was a 1x HP SCSI internal back when 1x was the fastest. CD recording was pretty flaky back then. Hold your breath and cross your fingers flaky.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 3 Jun 2010 17:34 Michael Kennedy wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:mpmdnfg0GbaWHZrRnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > > > Michael Kennedy wrote: > >> > >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > >> news:6b2dncCN0OpBjJrRnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > >> > > >> > mike wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Doesn't it have at least one empty slot where you can install a > >> >> > better video card? You can use multiple drives without installing a > >> >> > RAID driver. Don't pitch it out, if it works. > >> >> > >> >> Oh, no, I'd never pitch anything out, (unless maybe I tripped over it > >> >> and broke a toe or somethin') > >> >> > >> >> >Play with it. Install a > >> >> > version of Linux or use it for a test bed computer. You can remove > >> >> > the > >> >> > rack mount brackets on a lot of server cases and use them as a big > >> >> > desktop computer, or you can use some scrap lumber an made a crude > >> >> > rack > >> >> > for it. > >> >> > >> >> I guess that the main obstacle is I don't know anything about scsi; > >> >> there are no drives in the drive bay, and there's a scsi bus but I > >> >> don't know jack about scsi. I've got a 2.1 Gb scsi drive, and some > >> >> kind of scsi controller card, but just haven't spent much time looking > >> >> into it yet. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Mike > >> > > >> > > >> > Then stick an IDE or SATA controller card in there. They don't have > >> > to run SCSI drives. You may have to change some settings in the BIOS, > >> > but that isn't difficult. > >> > >> Or Just throw a scsi drive in there and play around with it. They're not > >> that complicated. Don't run away from something just because you don't > >> know > >> how it works. Use it as an opportunity to broden your knowledge. > > > > > > He didn't say what type of SCSI drive he needed. He may be missing > > the trays to hold a SCSI drive, as well. I was just offering a way to > > get it running, if everything else was good. The used Dell Power Edge > > 4350 I picked up for free last week works, and had three 36 G hard > > drives and a gig of RAM. The OS had been wiped, but I plan on using it > > as an Apache and Leafnode server. I installed Win 2000 to test the > > hardware, but I won't be using that OS. > > > > > > Good point. I forgot that servers have those trays to hold the hdd's.. > I've been out of the PC game going on 2 years now. I really miss working on > anything. Time for a job change. My passion is building and repairing > things. When I finally get back to Florida maybe I can. If you come back to the same area let me know. We might run into each other some day. Like the Orlando hamfest. :) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 3 Jun 2010 17:37
mike wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > He didn't say what type of SCSI drive he needed. He may be missing > > the trays to hold a SCSI drive, as well. I was just offering a way to > > get it running, if everything else was good. The used Dell Power Edge > > 4350 I picked up for free last week works, and had three 36 G hard > > drives and a gig of RAM. The OS had been wiped, but I plan on using it > > as an Apache and Leafnode server. I installed Win 2000 to test the > > hardware, but I won't be using that OS. > > You scored big time for sure. The Proliant came with 512 Mb, and > trays that say '36.4 Gb 10K Ultra Scsi'. Unfortunately all the trays > are empty :( > The connector that the drives plug into are wider than the one on the > scsi drive I've got. If they are 80 pin, here are some cheap 9 GB drives: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=IC35L009UCD210-R&cat=HDD for $5.99 + shipping. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |