From: shbazjinkens on
On May 12, 11:18 am, jodleren <sonn...(a)hot.ee> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I need to hold Reset on a PLC for some time.
> To do so I'd like to use a crystal and chip, not a condensator or
> something.
>
> I looked at the 4060, which has an onboard option for a crystal, but I
> am a little uncertain about how the counter works -  I need to divide
> by at least 160000 (or, say 2 in power of 17 or 18 is just fine for
> me).
>
> Is there a single chip available that can do most of it?
>
> Present power is either 5 or 12V.
>
> Sonnich

Is there some reason that the PLC logic can't be modified to
accommodate your needs?
From: Winston on
On 5/12/2010 9:00 PM, George Herold wrote:

(...)

> Seems like someone must sell a clock chip/package that puts out one
> pulse per second? Then you just have to count to 300. 'course I
> don't know of any such device.

The electric company provides pretty accurate 60 Hz for that
divide - by - 300 circuit.

It'll cost you a small transformer, a couple diodes and a resistor.


--Winston <-- Or maybe an optoisolator, a cap and a couple diodes
From: jodleren on
On May 13, 8:17 am, shbazjinkens <rossmoff...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 11:18 am, jodleren <sonn...(a)hot.ee> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all
>
> > I need to hold Reset on a PLC for some time.
> > To do so I'd like to use a crystal and chip, not a condensator or
> > something.
>
> > I looked at the 4060, which has an onboard option for a crystal, but I
> > am a little uncertain about how the counter works -  I need to divide
> > by at least 160000 (or, say 2 in power of 17 or 18 is just fine for
> > me).
>
> > Is there a single chip available that can do most of it?
>
> > Present power is either 5 or 12V.
>
> >Sonnich
>
> Is there some reason that the PLC logic can't be modified to
> accommodate your needs?

Dont know yet. The manufacturer recommends so for this 15+ years old
TNS PLC.

Sonnich
From: ian field on

"George Herold" <gherold(a)teachspin.com> wrote in message
news:c87ece62-cab2-44ea-8ef3-6377002999f7(a)e35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On May 12, 12:18 pm, jodleren <sonn...(a)hot.ee> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I need to hold Reset on a PLC for some time.
> To do so I'd like to use a crystal and chip, not a condensator or
> something.
>
> I looked at the 4060, which has an onboard option for a crystal, but I
> am a little uncertain about how the counter works - I need to divide
> by at least 160000 (or, say 2 in power of 17 or 18 is just fine for
> me).
>
> Is there a single chip available that can do most of it?
>
> Present power is either 5 or 12V.
>
> Sonnich

Seems like someone must sell a clock chip/package that puts out one
pulse per second? Then you just have to count to 300. 'course I
don't know of any such device.

Rip the PCB out of a quartz analogue travel clock and use a couple of
forward biased diodes and a dropper resistor for its supply.


From: John Fields on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 09:18:15 -0700 (PDT), jodleren <sonnich(a)hot.ee>
wrote:

>Hi all
>
>I need to hold Reset on a PLC for some time.
>To do so I'd like to use a crystal and chip, not a condensator or
>something.
>
>I looked at the 4060, which has an onboard option for a crystal, but I
>am a little uncertain about how the counter works - I need to divide
>by at least 160000 (or, say 2 in power of 17 or 18 is just fine for
>me).

---
The 4060 is a 14 stage binary ripple counter with an on-board
oscillator circuit.

It works by progressively dividing the input clock by succesively
higher powers of 2 up to a maximum of 16383 clocks, when all of its Q
outputs will be high.

Then, on the 16384th clock, it'll reset and all the outputs will go
low, starting a new count cycle.
---

>Is there a single chip available that can do most of it?

---
I don't think so, since it sounds like you'll be using a 32768Hz
crystal for the oscillator and you want a 5 second delay.

That's 163840 clocks, and a 4060 can only count up to 16383 until it
overflows, but you can easily do it using a couple of 4060s or a 4060
and a 4024, plus some kind and some glue logic in either case.
---

>Present power is either 5 or 12V.

---
OK.

I'm assuming you've got a pushbutton switch somewhere that you want to
press momentarily to put the PLC in RESET, and then 5 seconds later
have the timer release the RESET. Right?

If so, let me know and I'll post a schematic for you here.

BTW, what does the PLC want to see as a RESET signal?

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