From: Daddy on 28 Jul 2010 17:07 On 7/28/2010 3:21 PM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > Daddy<daddy(a)invalid.invalid> writes: > >> On 7/28/2010 1:57 PM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: >>> >>> I am thinking of getting a Dell Latitude 6510 for my >>> son's college computer. >>> >>> Would there be any serious downside to buying a student >>> version of Win 7 64 bit? >>> >>> Are drives a problem with the 64 bit OSs? Would I be able >>> to get the needed post install drivers from Dell? Would it >>> be a problem for printer drivers for a simple all-in-one >>> printer? >>> >>> I have never installed an OS from scratch. Any questions >>> I should be asking? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> >> >> The 'student versions' of Windows are identical in every way to the >> software you can buy in a store; they just cost less. Keep in mind >> that these are upgrade versions. >> >> You'll need 64-bit drivers for 64-bit Windows, but 64-bit drivers are >> available for most any hardware that you can buy today. >> >> Why do you need to install Windows from scratch? > > The computer would come with a 32-bit OS (Probably XP, as if you get > the "Downgrade to XP" option you can get media. So I would install > the 64 bit version clean. Which I have not done before... > > Thanks, > > 1- You can only install 64-bit Windows on a computer with 64-bit hardware. 2- As I said, the student version is an upgrade, and 32-bit Windows can't be upgraded to 64-bit Windows. 3- In any case, why do you want to 'upgrade' to x64? What do you hope to gain vs. x86 Windows? -- Daddy
From: ahall on 28 Jul 2010 17:14 Daddy <daddy(a)invalid.invalid> writes: > On 7/28/2010 3:21 PM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > > Daddy<daddy(a)invalid.invalid> writes: > > > >> On 7/28/2010 1:57 PM, ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > >>> > >>> I am thinking of getting a Dell Latitude 6510 for my > >>> son's college computer. > >>> > >>> Would there be any serious downside to buying a student > >>> version of Win 7 64 bit? > >>> > >>> Are drives a problem with the 64 bit OSs? Would I be able > >>> to get the needed post install drivers from Dell? Would it > >>> be a problem for printer drivers for a simple all-in-one > >>> printer? > >>> > >>> I have never installed an OS from scratch. Any questions > >>> I should be asking? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance, > >>> > >>> > >> > >> The 'student versions' of Windows are identical in every way to the > >> software you can buy in a store; they just cost less. Keep in mind > >> that these are upgrade versions. > >> > >> You'll need 64-bit drivers for 64-bit Windows, but 64-bit drivers are > >> available for most any hardware that you can buy today. > >> > >> Why do you need to install Windows from scratch? > > > > The computer would come with a 32-bit OS (Probably XP, as if you get > > the "Downgrade to XP" option you can get media. So I would install > > the 64 bit version clean. Which I have not done before... > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > 1- You can only install 64-bit Windows on a computer with 64-bit hardware. > > 2- As I said, the student version is an upgrade, and 32-bit Windows > can't be upgraded to 64-bit Windows. Ahh, I did not know that. Deal killer. > 3- In any case, why do you want to 'upgrade' to x64? What do you hope > to gain vs. x86 Windows? Primarily being able to use extra memory for photo and video editing. Thanks, -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell...)
From: dg1261 on 28 Jul 2010 18:01 <ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com> wrote in news:kpg62zzl35c.fsf(a)panix1.panix.com: >> 2- As I said, the student version is an upgrade, and 32-bit Windows >> can't be upgraded to 64-bit Windows. > > Ahh, I did not know that. Deal killer. > However, you can accomplish what you want by clean-installing Win7 from the upgrade media. See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp . Back in December the student versions of Win7 were $29, so I was upgrading a whole bunch of XP and Vista computers for students using Thurrott's method.
From: Christopher Muto on 28 Jul 2010 18:53 ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: > I am thinking of getting a Dell Latitude 6510 for my > son's college computer. > > Would there be any serious downside to buying a student > version of Win 7 64 bit? > > Are drives a problem with the 64 bit OSs? Would I be able > to get the needed post install drivers from Dell? Would it > be a problem for printer drivers for a simple all-in-one > printer? > > I have never installed an OS from scratch. Any questions > I should be asking? > > Thanks in advance, > it is probably a good idea to contact your sons college and talk to the college store or computer center. they often have package deals that are very complete machines with full warranties for students. most colleges align themselves with a particular vendor or two which often means they have an on site tech with replacements parts at the ready which greatly reduces down time. the caveats of windows 7 64 are most commonly lack of compatibility with older printers (must check the availability of drivers for your make/model printer or simply resign to buying a new one) and with certain vpn software products (vpn is used to connect remote computers to other networks, ie office working connecting to office) but you probably don't have to worry about that. not sure why you are asking about the operating system and installing it... dell doesn't sell any latitudes without operating systems. but you should go for the academic pricing on office... http://www.microsoft.com/student/office/en-us/ here's a good deal on the e6510 http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=blcyy3y&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04
From: Al Dykes on 28 Jul 2010 19:18 In article <D7mdnbPiNMF5Kc3RnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net>, Christopher Muto <muto(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: >ahall(a)no-spam-panix.com wrote: >> I am thinking of getting a Dell Latitude 6510 for my >> son's college computer. >> >> Would there be any serious downside to buying a student >> version of Win 7 64 bit? >> >> Are drives a problem with the 64 bit OSs? Would I be able >> to get the needed post install drivers from Dell? Would it >> be a problem for printer drivers for a simple all-in-one >> printer? >> >> I have never installed an OS from scratch. Any questions >> I should be asking? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> > >it is probably a good idea to contact your sons college and talk to the >college store or computer center. they often have package deals that >are very complete machines with full warranties for students. most >colleges align themselves with a particular vendor or two which often >means they have an on site tech with replacements parts at the ready >which greatly reduces down time. > >the caveats of windows 7 64 are most commonly lack of compatibility with >older printers (must check the availability of drivers for your >make/model printer or simply resign to buying a new one) and with >certain vpn software products (vpn is used to connect remote computers >to other networks, ie office working connecting to office) but you >probably don't have to worry about that. k If the campus uses a vpn, they will give you the latest software. The bookstore/computer center will give you good info. IME, hp retail printers and scanners and AIO devices are the worst for forward compatibility. I have a Canon scanner I have not been able to get to work. A new and better scanner is about $60. Photography IMO definitly indicates 64 bit windows and no less than 4GB ram. My new $600 laptop has that and I can easily edit huge files in photoshop and photoshop elements. -- Al Dykes News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising. - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
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