From: Larry on
Roger Coppock <rcoppock(a)adnc.com> wrote in news:4f1a94b4-5a10-4c06-8787-
1d99b75ccd4c(a)o7g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> An actual measurement of the climate forcing by
> CO2 and other greenhouse gases, and an estimate
> of the growth of that forcing over time.
>
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6826/abs/410355a0.html
>
> = = = = = = = = = =
>
> To get a grip on global warming science, Here are some lectures
> recorded
> in a classroom at a world class university:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA75A0DDB89ACCD7
>
> = = = = = = = = = =
>
> Climate Change and Anthropogenic Greenhouse Warming:
> A Selection of Key Articles, 1824-1995, with Interpretive Essays
>
> http://wiki.nsdl.org/index.php/PALE:ClassicArticles/GlobalWarming
>
>
>

The really sad part is this is the bullshit the greenies are force feeding
our children....

http://nsdl.org/

Funded by your wonderful National Science Foundation's political action
committee.


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From: Desertphile on
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 13:16:21 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock
<rcoppock(a)adnc.com> wrote:

> An actual measurement of the climate forcing by
> CO2 and other greenhouse gases, and an estimate
> of the growth of that forcing over time.
>
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6826/abs/410355a0.html
>
> = = = = = = = = = =
>
> To get a grip on global warming science, Here are some lectures
> recorded
> in a classroom at a world class university:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA75A0DDB89ACCD7
>
> = = = = = = = = = =
>
> Climate Change and Anthropogenic Greenhouse Warming:
> A Selection of Key Articles, 1824-1995, with Interpretive Essays
>
> http://wiki.nsdl.org/index.php/PALE:ClassicArticles/GlobalWarming

Those are fine articles on the subject. There is also the
climatology data freely available for download:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/

Ice cores and their climate records:
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/

Sea ice records, back to 1750:
http://nsidc.org/

Numerical weather prediction model output:
http://ftpprd.ncep.noaa.gov/

Analyzed sea surface temperature:
http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/


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On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 13:21:56 -0700 (PDT), Claudius Denk
<claudiusdenk(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> On Aug 1, 1:16�pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
>
> > An actual measurement of the climate forcing by
> > CO2 and other greenhouse gases, and an estimate
> > of the growth of that forcing over time.
> >
> > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6826/abs/410355a0.html

> I read your link thoroughly. Unfortunately I was unable to find

Facts "denk" tried to hide, restored:

> > To get a grip on global warming science, Here are some lectures
> > recorded in a classroom at a world class university:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA75A0DDB89ACCD7
> >
> > = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> > Climate Change and Anthropogenic Greenhouse Warming:
> > A Selection of Key Articles, 1824-1995, with Interpretive Essays
> >
> > http://wiki.nsdl.org/index.php/PALE:ClassicArticles/GlobalWarming


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On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT), Last Post
<last_post(a)primus.ca> wrote:

> On Aug 1, 4:16 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
>
> > An actual measurement of the climate forcing by
> > CO2 and other greenhouse gases, and an estimate
> > of the growth of that forcing over time.

> There is NO climate forcing by CO2 and "other greenhouse gases"

There isn't?! That's GREAT NEWS! So, why do all the scientists on
the planet (and for over 120 years) think otherwise?


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On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 23:56:15 -0700 (PDT), Dawlish
<pjgno1(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 1, 11:20�pm, Claudius Denk <claudiusd...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On Aug 1, 2:39�pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:

> > > You seem to have trouble with the basic science.
> > > I expected many people on this forum would, that
> > > is why I included the following link in my original post:
> >
> > > To get a grip on global warming science, Here are some lectures
> > > recorded �in a classroom at a world class university:
> >
> > >http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA75A0DDB89ACCD7

> > Roger, you can't say you weren't given an opportunity to make a
> > retraction.

LOL! That's hilarious! "Denk" get's punched in the face with the
truth, over and over and over again until he's laying flat on his
back from the blows, and then he staggars back up to his knees and
wails "I'd like to see you try that again!"

> Best just to post the same thing again Roger. This particular stupid's
> stance is that he knows the answers and no-one else in climate science
> does. That makes him a prime stupid who has a special chair in the
> stupid seats.

These clowns are engaging in political lobbying, not science and
not the truth. It's all just propaganda for them. Just like
Creationists, hollow-earthers, flat-earthers, geocentrists,
astrologers, palm readers, etc.

> If the world ends up with 2C+ (always "if" from a sceptic) this
> particular stupid will still be saying "show me proof".

Sol will soon start on its "upward" (increased) solar optimum
cycle, and NOAA predicts future high temperatures higher than the
record-breakers of the past five years. Nobody knows when Sol's
current solar minimum period will end: when it does (and it could
start any day), millions of more people will be moving northward.

> Tell him to find a laboratory that is atmosphere sized and do the
> measurements in that - oh! we have one. It's called planet earth and
> all measurements show warming, all measurements show CO2 increasing
> continually, all the physics shows that CO2's radiative properties
> will cause atmospheric heating and this stupid still bleats for proof,
> whilst saying that it simply *cannot* be CO2 until he has that proof.
> That's delusion, not science.

Worse yet, the only mechanism known to explain the increase is
CO2.

> The trouble is Denk (and the stupids) could be right. The other
> trouble is that he's not a scientist, neither are they; so who would
> you back to be correct?


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