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From: Maury Barbato on 29 Oct 2009 11:26 Hello, let a:N->Q a bijection, and let f:R->R be the function e^[-(1/x)] if x > 0 f(x) = 0 if x <= 0 Define g:R->R as follows g(x) = sum_{n=0 to inf} [2^(-n)]*f(x - a(n)) g is well defined and it's easy to prove, using the theorem on the derivative of a function series, that g is C^(inf). I think, anyhow, that g is nowhere analytic, but I can't give a rigorous proof. Do you have some idea? Thank you very much for your attention. My Best Regards, Maury Barbato
From: Timothy Murphy on 29 Oct 2009 15:40 Maury Barbato wrote: > Hello, > let a:N->Q a bijection, and let f:R->R be the > function > > e^[-(1/x)] if x > 0 > f(x) = > 0 if x <= 0 > > > Define g:R->R as follows > > g(x) = sum_{n=0 to inf} [2^(-n)]*f(x - a(n)) > > g is well defined and it's easy to prove, using > the theorem on the derivative of a function series, > that g is C^(inf). > I think, anyhow, that g is nowhere analytic, but > I can't give a rigorous proof. Do you have some idea? I don't see why your series is convergent, say for x = 0, since you might have a(n) < 0 and very small for arbitrarily large n. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
From: Robert Israel on 29 Oct 2009 16:25 Timothy Murphy <gayleard(a)eircom.net> writes: > Maury Barbato wrote: > > > Hello, > > let a:N->Q a bijection, and let f:R->R be the > > function > > > > e^[-(1/x)] if x > 0 > > f(x) = > > 0 if x <= 0 > > > > > > Define g:R->R as follows > > > > g(x) = sum_{n=0 to inf} [2^(-n)]*f(x - a(n)) > > > > g is well defined and it's easy to prove, using > > the theorem on the derivative of a function series, > > that g is C^(inf). > > I think, anyhow, that g is nowhere analytic, but > > I can't give a rigorous proof. Do you have some idea? > > I don't see why your series is convergent, say for x = 0, > since you might have a(n) < 0 and very small > for arbitrarily large n. The problem is not when a(n) is small, but when it is large. I think he means to use a bounded f, say replace exp(-1/x) by exp(-1/x)/(1 + exp(-1/x)). Then the 2^(-n) ensures that the series converges uniformly. -- Robert Israel israel(a)math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada
From: Zdislav V. Kovarik on 29 Oct 2009 15:55 On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Maury Barbato wrote: > Hello, > let a:N->Q a bijection, and let f:R->R be the > function > > e^[-(1/x)] if x > 0 > f(x) = > 0 if x <= 0 > > > Define g:R->R as follows > > g(x) = sum_{n=0 to inf} [2^(-n)]*f(x - a(n)) > > g is well defined and it's easy to prove, using > the theorem on the derivative of a function series, > that g is C^(inf). > I think, anyhow, that g is nowhere analytic, but > I can't give a rigorous proof. Do you have some idea? > > Thank you very much for your attention. > My Best Regards, > Maury Barbato (There is always a risk that infinite summation may "iron out" the lack of analyticity.) If you settle for another example of a C^(inf) nowhere analytic function with an easy proof, take f(x) = sum(n=0 to infinity) cos(2^n * x)/n! It is easy to calculate its derivatives at x=0, and when you apply Cauchy-Hadamard formula for radius of convergence, it will come out as zero. 1/R = lim sup (abs (f^(n)(0))/n!) Now, f is (2*pi) periodic, so integer multiples of 2*pi are points of non-analyticity. If you drop finitely many initial terms of the series, the period shortens by powers of 2, so you get lack of analyticity at all binary fractions of 2*pi and their integer multiples. That is a dense subset, and you are done. (Inspired by Weierstrass's example of an everywhere continuous, nowhere differentiable function.) Cheers, ZVK(Slavek).
From: Zdislav V. Kovarik on 29 Oct 2009 16:14 A correction of Cauchy-Hadamard formula below. On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Zdislav V. Kovarik wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Maury Barbato wrote: > > > Hello, > > let a:N->Q a bijection, and let f:R->R be the > > function > > > > e^[-(1/x)] if x > 0 > > f(x) = > > 0 if x <= 0 > > > > > > Define g:R->R as follows > > > > g(x) = sum_{n=0 to inf} [2^(-n)]*f(x - a(n)) > > > > g is well defined and it's easy to prove, using > > the theorem on the derivative of a function series, > > that g is C^(inf). > > I think, anyhow, that g is nowhere analytic, but > > I can't give a rigorous proof. Do you have some idea? > > > > Thank you very much for your attention. > > My Best Regards, > > Maury Barbato > > (There is always a risk that infinite summation may "iron out" the lack of > analyticity.) > > If you settle for another example of a C^(inf) nowhere analytic function > with an easy proof, take > > f(x) = sum(n=0 to infinity) cos(2^n * x)/n! > > It is easy to calculate its derivatives at x=0, and when you apply > Cauchy-Hadamard formula for radius of convergence, it will come out as > zero. > 1/R = lim sup (abs (f^(n)(0))/n!) > Correction: 1/R = lim sup (abs (f^(n)(0))/n!)^(1/n) My apologies. > Now, f is (2*pi) periodic, so integer multiples of 2*pi are points of > non-analyticity. > > If you drop finitely many initial terms of the series, the period shortens > by powers of 2, so you get lack of analyticity at all binary fractions of > 2*pi and their integer multiples. That is a dense subset, and you are > done. > > (Inspired by Weierstrass's example of an everywhere continuous, nowhere > differentiable function.) > > Cheers, ZVK(Slavek). >
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