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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 2 Nov 2009 00:48 A wrote: > > > There are many nonpolynomial equations which are not solvable in the > complex numbers, for example, > > 1 + x + x^2 / 2! + x^3 / 3! + x^4 / 4! + ... = 0 > > has no solutions in the complex numbers, since the power series on the > left is the Maclaurin series for e^x, and there is no complex number x > such that e^x = 0. > Alright I concede on this issue that I should have looked into the precision meaning of equation versus polynomial and I should have only used polynomial. And this entire book is about precision definitions and how I even need correcting on equation versus polynomial. So add this to the list of corrections, that we have to even straighten out equation from polynomial. (snipped) > > And what is your definition of "finite-number"? > > > It's the part below, that you didn't reply to. > > I was assuming that you actually knew some of the mathematics that > you're constantly dismissive of, but now I see that this isn't the > case. Have fun writing your posts--I won't post any further in your > threads. > > > > > > > > defined, and on passing to the isomorphism classes of finite sets, one > > > gets a set of isomorphism classes together with two operations, > > > addition and multiplication, coming from the union and Cartesian > > > product of sets. This set of isomorphism classes, together with > > > addition and multiplication operations, is what we usually identify as > > > the nonnegative integers (we identify the integer n with the > > > isomorphism class of finite sets with n elements). This definition is > > > precise, rigorous, effective, and standard. To define the rest of the > > > ring of integers (rather than just the nonnegative integers) one can > > > simply apply the Grothendieck group completion (which turns > > > commutative monoids to commutative groups, and commutative semirings > > > to commutative rings) to the semiring of nonnegative integers. So you mean to tell me "A" that you in a High School or University class of students would on the day you teach them the definition of a Finite Number versus an Infinite Number would stand to the front of the class and start spewing isomorphism , Grothendieck group completion, commutative monoids, semirings, etc. Don't you have a basic definition of Finite Number? One that even a nonmath person would understand? Or are you just a wound up yarn ball that Peirce talked about. No wonder you post anonymously, for anyone that has such a poppycock definition of "Finite Number" would be ashamed of themselves. "A's" definition of Finite Number above is typically what mathematics professors eschew as their definition of Finite Number. I doubt I ever will have the time but that is a good basis for another book is the convoluted corrupted definitions of Finite Number through the history of mathematics. I doubt anyone in any textbook published a definition of Finite Number as to what resembles A's above. A whole entire book devoted to what the mathematics community formally or informally defined Finite-Number to that of Infinite Number. And I know very well that I am the first to lay down the ruler at a specific number which is the boundary of Finite and beyond is Infinite. I am the first, because I am the first person to recognize in the history of science that Physics is above mathematics and math is just a tiny subset of physics. So that Physics dictates where numbers have meaning and beyond a boundary are meaningless. And it is fitting that I discovered that since the only person who can discover that would have to have discovered an Atom Totality theory. Noone else could say that Planck Unit 10^500 is the upper bound of Finite Number because noone else could have reasoned and made sense of that idea without a Atom Totality theory which shows that mathematics is a result of atoms being numerous and thus creating Algebra and atoms have shape and size thus creating Geometry. And it looks as though "A" is dropping out of this discussion, probably because he realizes he has no definition of Finite Number and he hates to see me win a victory. But I thank him, because "A" demonstrates how the present day professors of mathematics have filled their science with ill- definitions and never want to admit they have lousy definitions and never want to do anything about it. And whenever anyone points out to a mathematics professor of how lousy their definitions such as Finite Number are, they run away like "A" or they try to label the messenger as a crank. Mathematics is supposed to be the science of precision, but ironically by 2009 it is the most or one of the most severely corrupted sciences, which makes sense since the other sciences rely on experiments for acceptance whereas mathematics relies only on a bench of old fogeys with their judgemental opinion. When math defines Finite Number, then math will be occupied, more by computational skills rather than old fogeys with their philosophical opinions. When Pons and Fleischmann circa late 1980s announced Cold Fusion in test tubes, the truth or falsity would quickly be with experiments to verify. But if Pons and Fleischmann had been in mathematics with an announcement of a proof of FLT or Kepler Packing or 4 Color Mapping or Poincare C. the truth or falsity would have merely depended on a group of countryclub old fogeys of mathematics and Pons and Fleischmann would have won a Fields, a Nobel and a Wolf prize, thanks to the old fogeys. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |