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From: "Kevin Grittner" on 8 Apr 2010 14:35

From: "Kevin Grittner" on 8 Apr 2010 15:04

Greg Stark <stark(a)mit.edu> wrote:

> But all it means is you get a random subset of the messages.
> You're still missing most of the admin or sql or performance
> related threads since they're mostly on -general anyways. Those
> three categories cover pretty much all of -general.

Well, one of these more specific lists must be getting over half of
the message relevant to the title, unless things are freakishly
evenly divided. Message counts in the last 30 days:

143 -novice
199 -sql
321 -admin
436 -performance
----
1099 *subtotal*
----
1102 -general
----
2201 **total**
====

-Kevin

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From: Ned Lilly on 8 Apr 2010 14:58

+1 for the idea, and +1 for the Zork reference. Hello sailor.

On 4/8/2010 1:11 AM Greg Stark wrote:
> I've often said in the past that we have too many mailing lists with
> overlapping and vague charters. I submit the following thread as
> evidence that this causes real problems.
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/g2o4b46b5f01004010610ib8625426uae6ee90ac1435ba1(a)mail.gmail.com
>
> Because the poster chose to send it to pgsql-admin instead of
> pgsql-general (or pgsql-bugs) very few of the usual suspects had a
> chance to see it. 7 days later a question about a rather serious
> database corruption problem had no responses. I've never understand
> what the point of pgsql-admin is; just about every question posted is
> an "admin" question of some sort.
>
> Likewise I don't think we should have pgsql-performance or pgsql-sql
> or pgsql-novice -- any thread appropriate for any of these would be
> better served by sending it to pgsql-general anyways (with the
> exception of pgsql-performance which has a weird combination of hacker
> threads and user performance tuning threads). Sending threads to
> pgsql-general would get more eyes on them and would avoid a lot of the
> cross-posting headaches. What would someone subscribed to one of these
> lists but not pgsql-general get anyways but some random sample of
> threads that might be vaguely performance or admin related. They would
> still miss most of the administration and performance questions and
> discussions which happen on -general and -hackers as appropriate.
>

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From: Jaime Casanova on 8 Apr 2010 15:06

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Greg Stark <stark(a)mit.edu> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Grittner
>> <Kevin.Grittner(a)wicourts.gov> wrote:
>>> My set is different, but the principle is the same -- I can't find
>>> the time to read all messages to all lists (really, I've tried), so
>>> I limit by list to try to target the issues of most interest to me.
>>
>> But all it means is you get a random subset of the messages. You're
>> still missing most of the admin or sql or performance related threads
>> since they're mostly on -general anyways. Those three categories cover
>> pretty much all of -general.
>
> Maybe we should remove -general. Â :-)
>
>

if we want specific topics, then remove -general, -novice, -admin

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From: "Joshua D. Drake" on 8 Apr 2010 15:09

On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 15:06 -0400, Jaime Casanova wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Greg Stark <stark(a)mit.edu> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Grittner
> >> <Kevin.Grittner(a)wicourts.gov> wrote:
> >>> My set is different, but the principle is the same -- I can't find
> >>> the time to read all messages to all lists (really, I've tried), so
> >>> I limit by list to try to target the issues of most interest to me.
> >>
> >> But all it means is you get a random subset of the messages. You're
> >> still missing most of the admin or sql or performance related threads
> >> since they're mostly on -general anyways. Those three categories cover
> >> pretty much all of -general.
> >
> > Maybe we should remove -general. :-)
> >
> >
>
> if we want specific topics, then remove -general, -novice, -admin

This will likely never fly, see the archives.

Joshua D. Drake

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