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From: Andrew Usher on 14 Jul 2010 23:42 (Yes, I will post this every year) In 1789, the French showed that ordinary people could make a difference in throwing off an increasingly oppressive, dishonest, unresponsive government. What they did ranks as the most successful democratic revolution of all time; for their achievements have never been reversed. No one, not even the Bourbons, could think of restoring the Old Regime. In just a few years, they succeeded at changing everything; basically none of the old government or bureaucracy remained. It's harder today, though, because too many people depend for their livelihood on it. A socialist system to ensure people's livelihood would be a necessity but even with it it is harder than it was then in France. After 1789, the old privileged class was on its way to extinction, and only traces of it remain. The victory, however, was not final. There is now a new privileged class, one that though they ostensibly earn most of their money, are not less parasitical than the old. Today is July 14, Bastille Day. Inside France, it may be a celebration of nationalism. Outside France, we should look past that and remember what revolution is for someday we shall have to storm our Bastille. Andrew Usher
From: Zerkon on 15 Jul 2010 06:35 On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:42:15 -0700, Andrew Usher wrote: > (Yes, I will post this every year) > > In 1789, the French showed that ordinary people could make a difference > in throwing off an increasingly oppressive, dishonest, unresponsive > government. What they did ranks as the most successful democratic > revolution of all time; for their achievements have never been reversed. > No one, not even the Bourbons, could think of restoring the Old Regime. Ordinary people maybe but ordinary people who were extra-ordinarily enraged at the extra-ordinary debauchery of royalty. > > In just a few years, they succeeded at changing everything; basically > none of the old government or bureaucracy remained. It's harder today, > though, because too many people depend for their livelihood on it. A > socialist system to ensure people's livelihood would be a necessity but > even with it it is harder than it was then in France. After 1789, the > old privileged class was on its way to extinction, and only traces of it > remain. The victory, however, > was not final. There is now a new privileged class, one that though they > ostensibly earn most of their money, are not less parasitical than the > old. > > Today is July 14, Bastille Day. Inside France, it may be a celebration > of nationalism. Outside France, we should look past that and remember > what revolution is for someday we shall have to storm our Bastille. > > Andrew Usher Agree completely but there maybe a traditional problem with this agreement. We may agree but for entirely different reasons not the least of which being what the Bastille is.
From: Chad Valley on 15 Jul 2010 06:39 On Jul 15, 5:42 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > (Yes, I will post this every year) > > In 1789, the French showed that ordinary people could make a > difference in throwing off an increasingly oppressive, dishonest, > unresponsive government. What they did ranks as the most successful > democratic revolution of all time; for their achievements have never > been reversed. No one, not even the Bourbons, could think of restoring > the Old Regime. > > In just a few years, they succeeded at changing everything; basically > none of the old government or bureaucracy remained. It's harder today, > though, because too many people depend for their livelihood on it. A > socialist system to ensure people's livelihood would be a necessity > but even with it it is harder than it was then in France. After 1789, > the old privileged class was on its way to extinction, and only traces > of it remain. The victory, however, > was not final. There is now a new privileged class, one that though > they ostensibly earn most of their money, are not less parasitical > than the old. > > Today is July 14, Bastille Day. Inside France, it may be a celebration > of nationalism. Outside France, we should look past that and remember > what revolution is for someday we shall have to storm our Bastille. > > Andrew Usher I read they were gonna be let out to save money....
From: Igor on 15 Jul 2010 10:34 On Jul 14, 11:42 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > (Yes, I will post this every year) > > In 1789, the French showed that ordinary people could make a > difference in throwing off an increasingly oppressive, dishonest, > unresponsive government. What they did ranks as the most successful > democratic revolution of all time; for their achievements have never > been reversed. No one, not even the Bourbons, could think of restoring > the Old Regime. > > In just a few years, they succeeded at changing everything; basically > none of the old government or bureaucracy remained. It's harder today, > though, because too many people depend for their livelihood on it. A > socialist system to ensure people's livelihood would be a necessity > but even with it it is harder than it was then in France. After 1789, > the old privileged class was on its way to extinction, and only traces > of it remain. The victory, however, > was not final. There is now a new privileged class, one that though > they ostensibly earn most of their money, are not less parasitical > than the old. > > Today is July 14, Bastille Day. Inside France, it may be a celebration > of nationalism. Outside France, we should look past that and remember > what revolution is for someday we shall have to storm our Bastille. > > Andrew Usher Why do you want to overthrow our democracy? Wouldn't that be like a reverse French Revolution?
From: Androcles on 15 Jul 2010 10:57 "Igor" <thoovler(a)excite.com> wrote in message news:ac7342e2-7a6d-4470-9dc6-367079e5f834(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... On Jul 14, 11:42 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > (Yes, I will post this every year) Why do you want to overthrow our democracy? Wouldn't that be like a reverse French Revolution? ================================================= Why do you want to respond to an off-topic troll in sci.math,sci.physics,uk.politics.misc,alt.philosophy? Wouldn't that be like a reverse cross-post?
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