From: Leonid Lenov on 22 Jan 2010 10:48 Hello, Let p>2 be a prime. In Z[sqrt(-p)] the following holds: (1-sqrt(-p))(1+sqrt(-p))=1+p=2t so there is no unique factorization in Z[sqrt(-p)]. Is that correct? Thanks.
From: Arturo Magidin on 22 Jan 2010 13:23 On Jan 22, 9:48 am, Leonid Lenov <leonidle...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > Let p>2 be a prime. In Z[sqrt(-p)] the following holds: > (1-sqrt(-p))(1+sqrt(-p))=1+p=2t > so there is no unique factorization in Z[sqrt(-p)]. Is that correct? Yes; the only units in Z[sqrt(-p)] are 1 and -1, so 2 cannot be an associate of either (1-sqrt(-p)) or (1+sqrt(-p)). A norm argument shows that 2 is irreducible, and clearly 2 does not divide either 1- sqrt(-p) nor 1+sqrt(-p). Keep in mind, though, that Z[sqrt(-p)] may not be a number field: if p=3 (mod 4), then the number ring of Q(sqrt(-p)) is Z[(1+sqrt(-p))/2]. So, for example, the number ring of Q(sqrt(-3)) *is* a UFD; that ring is Z[(1+sqrt(-3))/2]. That said, there are only finitely many number rings of imaginary quadratic number fields that are UFDs. -- Arturo Magidin
From: Bill Dubuque on 22 Jan 2010 15:28 Arturo Magidin <magidin(a)member.ams.org> wrote: > On Jan 22, 9:48 am, Leonid Lenov <leonidle...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Let p>2 be a prime. In Z[sqrt(-p)] the following holds: >> -sqrt(-p))(1 +sqrt(-p))=1= 1+p = 2t >> so there is no unique factorization in Z[sqrt(-p)]. Is that correct? > > Yes; the only units in Z[sqrt(-p)] are 1 and -1, so 2 cannot be an > associate of either (1-sqrt(-p)) or (1+sqrt(-p)). That's not needed. It suffices to show 2 is non-prime irreducible. Norms => irreducible, and the factorization shows its non-prime. > A norm argument shows that 2 is irreducible, and clearly 2 does not > divide either 1-sqrt(-p) nor 1+sqrt(-p). > > Keep in mind, though, that Z[sqrt(-p)] may not be a number field: if > p=3 (mod 4), then the number ring of Q(sqrt(-p)) is Z[(1+sqrt(-p))/2]. > So, for example, the number ring of Q(sqrt(-3)) *is* a UFD; that ring > is Z[(1+sqrt(-3))/2]. That said, there are only finitely many number > rings of imaginary quadratic number fields that are UFDs.
From: Achava Nakhash, the Loving Snake on 22 Jan 2010 16:48 On Jan 22, 7:48 am, Leonid Lenov <leonidle...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > Let p>2 be a prime. In Z[sqrt(-p)] the following holds: > (1-sqrt(-p))(1+sqrt(-p))=1+p=2t > so there is no unique factorization in Z[sqrt(-p)]. Is that correct? > Thanks. In order to properly understand the other replies, here is some information you should know. First of all, when you are in the ring Z [sqrt(-p)], prime means prime in this ring, and being a prime among the set of integers does not make you a prime in this ring. For instance, p = -(sqrt(-p)))^2, and so p is not a prime in this ring. Second of all, unique factorization is always up to unit factors. A unit is defined as an element u of the ring such that there exists an element v of the ring with u*v = 1. In other words, the units are the multiplicatively invertible elements of the ring. With the integers, the only units are 1 and -1, so there is no real issue. In your ring Z [sqrt(-p)], it looks like there are no units except 1 and -1. However, if you had used Z{sqrt(p)] instead. there would have been infinitely many units. Third of all, number theorists don't generally consider the rings Z [sqrt(-p)]. Instead they consider all the elements of Q[sqrt(-p)] which satisfy monic polynomials over Z. In your cases, this is the same as Z[sqrt(-p)] as long as p = 1 (mod 4). However, when p = 3 (mod 4), then instead of Z[sqrt(-p)] you get everything of the form (a + b*sqrt(-p))/2 where a and b are integers that are either both even or both odd. This contains, but is larger than Z[sqrt(-p)]. When p = 3, you actually get units doing this when a = b = 1. For other p there are no units. You can never get unique factorization out of Z[sqrt(-p)] when p = 3 (mod 4). When you do it the standard way that I described above, you get unique factorization for precisely 8 values of p. Unfortunately I won't have access to a number theory book to look up which one's they are until I get home from work which wll be maybe 4 hours from now. However, I know that 3 is among them. In fact I think that they are all = 3 (mod 4). You can adjoin sqrt(-1) also and that gives you a unique factorization domain whose units are 1, -1, i, -i. You will hear in some quarters about the 9 numbers of Gauss which include -1 and -p for all the different p that give you unique factorization domains doing it the way I did. I am pretty sure that -19 and -163 are among these numbers. Regards, Achava
From: Andrew Usher on 22 Jan 2010 18:53 On Jan 22, 9:48 am, Leonid Lenov <leonidle...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > Let p>2 be a prime. In Z[sqrt(-p)] the following holds: > (1-sqrt(-p))(1+sqrt(-p))=1+p=2t > so there is no unique factorization in Z[sqrt(-p)]. Is that correct? > Thanks. Yes, and p need not be prime. As others have pointed out, if you allow the half-integer values when p=3 mod 4, you have additional UFDs: p=3, 7, 11, 19, 43, 67, 163. Andrew Usher
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