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From: Mike Williams on 31 May 2010 02:51 "Helmut Meukel" <Helmut_Meukel(a)NoProvider.de> wrote in message news:htuq50$fki$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Two big phone/ISP companies didn't answer any > mails of their customers So now is the time to ditch them and move somewhere else. Mike
From: Karl E. Peterson on 1 Jun 2010 15:21 Helmut Meukel wrote: > "C. Kevin Provance" <*@*.*> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:%23$x4c%234$KHA.3176(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> "Helmut Meukel" <Helmut_Meukel(a)NoProvider.de> wrote in message >> news:htsaga$jas$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> : Because there is one guy - Julien �lie - who is the self-appointed >> : Maintainer of the microsoft.public.* groups and has already announced >> : he will send RemoveGroup Messages. If the other servers in the >> : Usenet will honor his messages, the groups are automatically removed >> : from these servers! >> : >> : If nobody cares, the groups will vanish from most Usenet servers. >> : >> : Oh, I agree, they will still be there on some servers, but try to find >> : those few. >> >> I think I read someplace that eternal september planned on ignoring those >> messages. > > Probably in one of my messages :-) > I posted this info to some groups. > But I dont know about any news servers outside of Germany. > > BTW, Eternal-September is from Germany. I sent them a message, specifically asking about this. Never got a response. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 1 Jun 2010 15:23 David Kaye wrote: > "Helmut Meukel" <Helmut_Meukel(a)NoProvider.de> wrote: > >> Because there is one guy - Julien �lie - who is the self-appointed >> Maintainer of the microsoft.public.* groups and has already announced >> he will send RemoveGroup Messages. If the other servers in the >> Usenet will honor his messages, the groups are automatically removed >> from these servers! > > This assumes that the servers will honor the messages. It appears that while > most Usenet servers will honor the control messages to set up groups they > don't seem to honor the take-downs. So far, I've only heard of ISP admins rejecting the rmgroup requests from that Jules character for the m.p.* hierarchy. That isn't going to leave what anyone would consider a critical mass, what with the rate at which those are falling over. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org
From: Helmut Meukel on 1 Jun 2010 16:16 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:eTBWo%23bALHA.4652(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Helmut Meukel wrote: >> "C. Kevin Provance" <*@*.*> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> news:%23$x4c%234$KHA.3176(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Helmut Meukel" <Helmut_Meukel(a)NoProvider.de> wrote in message >>> news:htsaga$jas$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> : Because there is one guy - Julien �lie - who is the self-appointed >>> : Maintainer of the microsoft.public.* groups and has already announced >>> : he will send RemoveGroup Messages. If the other servers in the >>> : Usenet will honor his messages, the groups are automatically removed >>> : from these servers! >>> : >>> : If nobody cares, the groups will vanish from most Usenet servers. >>> : >>> : Oh, I agree, they will still be there on some servers, but try to find >>> : those few. >>> >>> I think I read someplace that eternal september planned on ignoring those >>> messages. >> >> Probably in one of my messages :-) >> I posted this info to some groups. >> But I dont know about any news servers outside of Germany. >> >> BTW, Eternal-September is from Germany. > > I sent them a message, specifically asking about this. Never got a response. > Karl, in a posting to the d.a.n.g (de.admin.news.groups) someone wrote about eternal-september being a one-man-show. Don't know if that's true. Helmut.
From: Karl E. Peterson on 1 Jun 2010 17:22
Helmut Meukel wrote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:eTBWo%23bALHA.4652(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Helmut Meukel wrote: >>> "C. Kevin Provance" <*@*.*> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>> news:%23$x4c%234$KHA.3176(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> "Helmut Meukel" <Helmut_Meukel(a)NoProvider.de> wrote in message >>>> news:htsaga$jas$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> : Because there is one guy - Julien �lie - who is the self-appointed >>>> : Maintainer of the microsoft.public.* groups and has already announced >>>> : he will send RemoveGroup Messages. If the other servers in the >>>> : Usenet will honor his messages, the groups are automatically removed >>>> : from these servers! >>>> : >>>> : If nobody cares, the groups will vanish from most Usenet servers. >>>> : >>>> : Oh, I agree, they will still be there on some servers, but try to find >>>> : those few. >>>> >>>> I think I read someplace that eternal september planned on ignoring those >>>> messages. >>> >>> Probably in one of my messages :-) >>> I posted this info to some groups. >>> But I dont know about any news servers outside of Germany. >>> >>> BTW, Eternal-September is from Germany. >> >> I sent them a message, specifically asking about this. Never got a >> response. > > Karl, > in a posting to the d.a.n.g (de.admin.news.groups) someone wrote about > eternal-september being a one-man-show. Don't know if that's true. That was my impression, too, yeah. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org Customer Hatred Knows No Bounds at MSFT ClassicVB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org |