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From: Lie Ryan on 20 Jan 2010 00:19
On 01/18/10 21:34, Nick Keighley wrote:
> Wasn't jongware suggesting something even more magical? The VHLL that
> can create appications that aren't stored on the machine?

app-get, emerge, yum?
From: toby on 24 Jan 2010 19:28
On Jan 18, 5:34 am, Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On 15 Jan, 16:43, dj3va...(a)csclub.uwaterloo.ca.invalid wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <5de738e1-b64c-470c-a097-4020a2397...(a)j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > Nick Keighley  <nick_keighley_nos...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >On 13 Jan, 16:43, dj3va...(a)csclub.uwaterloo.ca.invalid wrote:
> > >> In article <4b4def88$0$22938$e4fe5...(a)news.xs4all.nl>,
> > >> [Jongware] <so...(a)no.spam.net> wrote:
> > >> >Aha -- wouldn't the logical end point be a programming language where
> > >> >you type "word processor", save it as source, compile, and have a word
> > >> >processor?
>
> > >> Why bother to compile it?  Just have it interpret on-the-fly.
> > >> That way you could even run it in interactive mode, and it's
> > >> sufficiently high-level that even non-programmers could usefully use
> > >> it.
>
> > >> Unix people call this a "shell".
>
> > >I'm guessing you're trying to be funny/ironic. But in case you aren't,
> > >Unix has dozens of stranglely incompatible Command Line Interfaces
> > >that Unix people call "shells". None of them are word processors.
>
> > Right.
> > But all of them have the property that I can get a word processor by
> > typing the name of a word processor that's installed on the system.
>
> I thought you were claiming Unix uniquely had some sort of VHLL.

Compared to C, bash *is* a VHLL. Rewrite this in C:

grep -i blah.log |cut -d ' ' -f 4,7 |cut -c 2-12,23-36 |sort |uniq -c -
i


> Apart
> from the weird embedded ones, don't *all* OSs have a way to run the
> programs that are installed on them?
>
> Wasn't jongware suggesting something even more magical? The VHLL that
> can create appications that aren't stored on the machine?
>
> > My point was that the "primitives" provided by a shell (the programs
> > installed on the system) give a pretty good approximation to
> > [Jongware]'s suggestion of "type 'word processor' and get a word
> > processor".

From: toby on 24 Jan 2010 19:31
On Jan 11, 3:07 pm, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
> There are certain editors that highlight
> the syntax/color for datatypes/variables
> or comments etc.
>
> Similarly,
> Is there a tool for C language that
> could suggest an optimized/alternate
> programming logic for the function that
> is written ?

IMHO the most effective output it could make is: "Are you really sure
the best tool for this task is C?"

>
> The optimized/alternate logic can be
> suggested as soon as we finish coding
> for one function or it can be suggested
> as soon as the code is compiled/parsed
> by that tool.
>
> It will be even more helpful if that tool
> also provides the cycle counts, cache
> usage, cache misses and lines of code
> also.
>
> It would be better if that tool has an
> option to enable / disable this feature
> either through compile time or some
> other configurations.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru

From: karthikbalaguru on 26 Jan 2010 00:20
On Jan 25, 5:31 am, toby <t...(a)telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
> On Jan 11, 3:07 pm, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > There are certain editors that highlight
> > the syntax/color for datatypes/variables
> > or comments etc.
>
> > Similarly,
> > Is there a tool for C language that
> > could suggest an optimized/alternate
> > programming logic for the function that
> > is written ?
>
> IMHO the most effective output it could make is: "Are you really sure
> the best tool for this task is C?"
>

My query is 'A tool that suggests
optimized logic for a piece of
code/module/function' . I am
looking for a tool that suggests
optimized logic for various
modules/functions written in
C language.
The tool can be made of any
language.

>
> > The optimized/alternate logic can be
> > suggested as soon as we finish coding
> > for one function or it can be suggested
> > as soon as the code is compiled/parsed
> > by that tool.
>
> > It will be even more helpful if that tool
> > also provides the cycle counts, cache
> > usage, cache misses and lines of code
> > also.
>
> > It would be better if that tool has an
> > option to enable / disable this feature
> > either through compile time or some
> > other configurations.
>
> > Any ideas ?
>
> > Thx in advans,
> > Karthik Balaguru- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Karthik Balaguru
From: Nick Keighley on 26 Jan 2010 03:03
On 26 Jan, 05:20, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 5:31 am, toby <t...(a)telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
> > On Jan 11, 3:07 pm, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...(a)gmail.com>

<snip>

> > > Is there a tool for C language that
> > > could suggest an optimized/alternate
> > > programming logic for the function that
> > > is written ?
>
> > IMHO the most effective output it could make is: "Are you really sure
> > the best tool for this task is C?"
>
> My query is 'A tool that suggests
> optimized logic for a piece of
> code/module/function' .

we can read

> I am
> looking for a tool that suggests
> optimized logic for various
> modules/functions written in
> C language.

and I am doubtful that such a tool can exist

> The tool can be made of any
> language.

or none

BTW: are your lines so short so your posts look like poetry?


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