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From: Savageduck on 20 Oct 2009 02:05
On 2009-10-19 21:05:14 -0700, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> said:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:02:12 -0700, Savageduck
> <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-10-19 08:44:59 -0700, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> It is time to treat myself to a new photo printer so I thought I would
>>> ask here for recommendations.
>>>
>>> Asked in three shops locally and the answers were
>>> Canon PIXMA pro9000
>>> Epson Stylus Photo R2880
>>> HP Photosmart Pro B8190
>>>
>>> Anyone got any better suggestions?
>>>
>>> I know I can get an Ink Flow system for the Epson. But apart from that
>>> it is hard to work out the pros and con's of the three above. I suppose
>>> as a user of God's own Camera system (Nikon) a Canon printer is out of
>>> the question :-)
>>
>> Not necessarily, I have a 2 year old Canon i9900 which prints perfectly
>> acceptable 13 x 19 prints from my Nikon D70 & D300 files.
>>
>> The Epson which the i9900 replaced remains an ink clogged anchor.
>
> An ancient model?
>
>
>
> Eric Stevens

Yup. A Stylus 860.
....and I have been Epson averse ever since.
I suppose I am probably denying myself a better printer than the
perfectly functioning, 8 cartridge, Canon i9900. With my current Epson
wariness. I'll just wait and see what there is when it comes time for a
new printer.
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Regards,

Savageduck

From: Chris H on 20 Oct 2009 03:36
In message <rfdqd5lf9ov3j3ospij8bbm47pmr4atgoj(a)4ax.com>, Eric Stevens
<eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> writes
>On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:44:59 +0100, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>It is time to treat myself to a new photo printer so I thought I would
>>ask here for recommendations.
>>
>>Asked in three shops locally and the answers were
>>Canon PIXMA pro9000
>>Epson Stylus Photo R2880
>>HP Photosmart Pro B8190
>>
>>Anyone got any better suggestions?
>>
>>I know I can get an Ink Flow system for the Epson. But apart from that
>>it is hard to work out the pros and con's of the three above. I suppose
>>as a user of God's own Camera system (Nikon) a Canon printer is out of
>>the question :-)
>
>The 2880 uses the most recent of the Epson pigment ink systems and I
>doubt that either of the others will be able to surpass it (or even
>equal it). However you should look into the problems you will
>encounter whan switching from colour to monochrome and vice versa.

Yes, that is a problem. I did wonder if Epson might bring out a new
version with both black inks in place. That said I don't often do
monochrome prints

Also is there a problem if these printers are left idle for any length
of time?




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From: Chris H on 20 Oct 2009 03:38
In message <CWbDm.16982$Lw1.7752(a)newsfe03.iad>, Mr. Jon Pope
<mrjonpope(a)cox.net> writes
>I will always stay with EPSON

I have some friends like that... Problem is that it is difficult to get
an unbiased opinion out of them. :-(

>I have never had any problems. I am using the EPSON NX-400 and the pics
>it prints are awesome . A 8x10 print takes 20 minutes to print

The time is not a problem. I was not intending to mass produce.


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From: trouble on 20 Oct 2009 15:15
I can only speak from my experience with Epson and Canon printers.
Epsons are indeed prone to head clogging but it is avoidable with regular
use of the printer and the cleaning process. Yes, it wastes ridiculously
expensive ink.
Being lazy, and actually liking the appearance of Epson pigment based color
prints, I prefer Epson because of its wide variety of paper surfaces with
canned profiles that are pretty good. The importance of reliable paper
profiles is underestimated and very important because the LCD monitors most
of us use are overly bright and inaccurately calibrated.
There is a bit more guess work and fudging using Canon printers with
non-Canon paper (limited surface types) and if you are able to profile your
printer output it is a moot point.
If you are going to use an external inking system you are on your own with
regard to support.

From: Bristolian on 20 Oct 2009 16:13
Chris H wrote:

>
> Also is there a problem if these printers are left idle for any length
> of time?
>
>
>
>
Hi Chris, I have the 2880 (and an R265) and think they're both fine
printers. My 2880 is dedicated for photography and doesn't get too much
use ~ I'm not that good that I feel the need to print too many pictures.
You don't get any problems leaving them idle even for a few weeks - just
carry out a head clean before printing again. I don't print monochrome.

I use a continuous ink system with the R265 (which is my general purpose
printer and also used by SWMBO for her card making business) but the
colours can be a bit variable. I wouldn't use that for a print that I
was intending to keep/frame/sell. I'm not aware of anywhere that sells
genuine Epson inks for the 2880 in bulk so you'd likely suffer the same
problems as I see on the R265 if you tried that.

HTH :-)

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Regards


Bristolian
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