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From: cjcountess on 30 Jun 2010 11:10 The postulates 1) The speed of light is highest possible speed in universe 2) The speed of light is constant regardless of motion of observer or observed In Question Doppler effect demonstrates that frequency reflected off object in motion, increases in direction of motion, and decreases in opposite direction in direct proportion to the said speed of object and that is how radar detects direction and speed of objects. It is as though motion of object is being added to or subtracted from frequency of light. Also along with increase of frequency comes increase of kinetic energy relative mass and momentum. Einstein was able to conclude that energy of photon is (E=m/c^2) that energy of matter is (E=mc^2) and that if matter loses energy in form of radiation its mass deceases by (m=E/c^2) From all this one might conclude that higher frequency which translates to higher relative mass and kinetic energy as we;ll as higher momentum was due to higher speed of photon if not in linear direction at least in angular direction as indeed there are more cycles per time unit which can only mean higher speed in that direction. Planck discovered that (E=hv) later stated as (E=hf) that the higher the frequency the higher the energy, the shorter the wavelength, and more particle like the photon became as well as the harder it hit photo- electric plates to dislodge electrons. Thus the formula (E=hv) is analogous to and seemingly equal to (F=mv) for force of material objects and its extended version (E=hf/c^2) corresponds to (F=mv/r^2) deBroglie latter realized that (E=hf=mc^2) at level of electron that electron is also a wave and that the only thing separating them is amount of momentum. Why then are these postulate not amended to 1) The speed of light is constant and the highest in linear direction, but varies in angular direction. 2) The higher the frequency, the higher the speed (cycles per time unit) and at (c^2), which is (c in circular and or spherical rotation), a particle attains rest mass. see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_catastrophe were it states "The radiated power eventually goes to zero at infinite frequencies" under solution This indicates that at highest frequency which they thought of as infinite, radiation stopped, which it does but for reasons that it attains rest mass. This would eliminate the idea of the ultraviolet catastrophe for photon as well as quantum particles which require renormalization, the idea of point particles and probability wave and that formula {psi = (x, t)^2} become equal to (E=mc^2) = (E=mc^circled) because it is exactly the turning of the wave into a particle at (c^2) by giving it circular and or spherical rotation that make the probability of finding the particle within the wave equal to finding the wave in the particle because at (c^2) the wave becomes the particle. We might also include that frequency does not diverge to (v^2) interpreted as infinity it converges to (c^2) which is rest mass Conrad J Countess
From: cjcountess on 30 Jun 2010 12:19 Hi this is Conrad J Countess, again If you liked that first post you're really gonna like this one. And if you didn't like that first one, you're really not going to like this one either The Speed of Light is not the Highest Speed in the Universe it is Actual the Slowest This is why: EM waves travel faster than c at c+f if we calculate right angular motion of wave according to vector addition, c in the linear direction + whatever the angular speed is that creates cycles per time unite. In other words c plus the angular part of the cycle. ( Correction I may change that to (cxf) to match (hf) and vector addition to sqrt(c^2+f^2). This is why higher frequency waves carry more momentum than lower frequency waves, because they have higher kinetic energy from their higher speed. Rest mass travels at c^2 which is also faster than c, even though it appears at rest. According to relativity, a light wave travels at c in linear direction from perspective of observer. But from the perspective of the light wave, we are traveling at c in the opposite direction. On top of that, rest mass is also rotating. Furthermore if an object travels at a constant rate in a strait line, it is equal to not moving at all, according to Newton and currently accepted theory. So there you have it. What appears to be the fastest speed [c] is actually the slowest, and what appears to be the slowest.[rest mass] is actually the fastest because c^2 is faster than c. Even if you take rest mass and add additional motion according to relativity its internal motion or time is suppose to slow down due to Lorentz contraction in direct proportion to this, thereby canceling out any additional speed. NEVERTHELESS we are ALL traveling FASTER than LIGHT ...... ENJOY THE RIDE Conrad J Countess Why c^2 is faster than c When two vectors of motion are of equal force, and at right angle to each other, it creates a centripetal / centrifugal force balance giving rise to circular and/or spherical motion. And of course those who are familiar with me know that I have a theory / discovery that c^2 is a frequency at high end of EM spectrum where energy turns to matter because it takes on a circular and or spherical motion as the energy gets trapped in a closed loop. This happens when the frequency or angular speed is it's highest which is also at c. Analogous to a line of 1 inch in the linear direction x a line of 1 inch in the right angular direction to create a square inch, c in the linear direction x c in the 90 degree or right angular direction will provide the necessary centripetal / centrifugal force balance to trap energy in a closed loop and create rest mass or matter. SEE:http://www.wbabin.net/science/countess.pdf
From: hanson on 30 Jun 2010 13:56 Yo, cj, the interns just informed me that you followed me with 2 posts of yours, to my tripe that I posted, in response to Androcles' beating up the besotted Wabnigga... ahahahaha... So, what do you wish me to do with, or say about, your post below? -- hanson > "cjcountess" <cjcountess(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:509b0f6e-3f77-42c9-b488-af848263d1cd(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > Hi this is Conrad J Countess, again > If you liked that first post you're really gonna like this one. > And if you didn't like that first one, you're really not going to like > this one either > The Speed of Light is not the Highest Speed in the Universe it is > Actual the Slowest > This is why: > EM waves travel faster than c at c+f if we calculate right angular > motion of wave according to vector addition, c in the linear > direction > + whatever the angular speed is that creates cycles per time unite. > In other words c plus the angular part of the cycle. > ( Correction, I may > change that to (cxf) to match (hf) and vector addition to > sqrt(c^2+f^2). > This is why higher frequency waves carry more momentum > than lower frequency waves, because they have highe > r kinetic energy from their higher speed. Rest > mass travels at c^2 which is also faster than c, even though it > appears at rest. > According to relativity, a light wave travels at c in linear > direction from perspective of observer. >But from the perspective of the light > wave, we are traveling at c in the opposite direction. On top of > that, rest mass is also rotating. Furthermore > if an object travels at a > constant rate in a strait line, it is equal to not moving at all, > according to Newton and currently accepted theory. > So there you have it. > What appears to be the fastest speed [c] is actually the slowest, > and what appears to be the slowest.[rest mass > ] is actually the fastest because c^2 is faster than c. > Even if you take rest mass and add > additional motion according to relativity its internal motion or time > is suppose to slow down due to Lorentz contraction in direct > proportion to this, thereby canceling out any additional speed. > NEVERTHELESS we are ALL traveling FASTER than LIGHT ... > ... ENJOY THE RIDE -- Conrad J Countess > Why c^2 is faster than c > When two vectors of motion are of equal force, and at right angle to > each other, it creates a centripetal / centrifugal force balance > giving rise to circular and/or spherical motion. And of course those > who are familiar with me know that I have a theory / discovery that > c^2 is a frequency at high end of EM spectrum where energy turns to > matter because it takes on a circular and or spherical motion as the > energy gets trapped in a closed loop. This happens when the frequency > or angular speed is it's highest which is also at c. Analogous to a > line of 1 inch in the linear direction x a line of 1 inch in the > right angular direction to create a square inch, > c in the linear direction > x c in the 90 degree or right angular direction will provide the > necessary centripetal / centrifugal force balance to trap energy in a > closed loop and create rest mass or matter. > SEE:http://www.wbabin.net/science/countess.pdf > wherein it says: -- E= mc^2 = E= mc^(circled) and c = sqrt(-1)
From: Androcles on 1 Jul 2010 03:31 "Helmut Wabnig" <hwabnig@ .- --- -. dotat> wrote in message news:58fo2617m55pc0kn99ethrj505pdqs82kg(a)4ax.com... | On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:56:10 +0100, "Androcles" | <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_z> wrote: | | > | >If we don't agree the speed of light is constant you'll scream and | >stamp your feet and poop your diaper and throw your pacifier | >on the ground! Right, wabnigga? | | | No, Andro So the speed of light is c but the speed of rays are c-v, so rays are not light, right, wabnigga? "But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k, when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v", little doubts nibbling on Einstein's soul, hahaha, how funny.
From: cjcountess on 2 Jul 2010 09:19
On Jun 30, 1:56 pm, "hanson" <han...(a)quick.net> wrote: > Yo, cj, the interns just informed me that you followed me > with 2 posts of yours, to my tripe that I posted, in response to > Androcles' beating up the besotted Wabnigga... ahahahaha... > So, what do you wish me to do with, or say about, your post > below? -- > hanson > Hi Hanson I wish you to say noting in particular I was just getting in on the conversation with a different perspective on relativity. Glad to see that the discussion is still going because lots of new things are comming into view Conrad J Countess |