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From: Ry Nohryb on 31 May 2010 14:35
On May 31, 8:01 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 12:11 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> (...)
> > Keep up the good fight! Still programming in assembly language?
>
> That doesn't make any sense either.  I am programming in the same
> language as you and your "engineer" friends.  HTH.

Yes, the same language, not, the same API. The browsers provide an
(awful) lower-level API that you love to love. But people are moving
towards more powerful, higher level, much less awful APIs, by
extending the language. That's what the -many- libraries (attempt to)
provide. But you seem not to get it.
--
Jorge.
From: David Mark on 31 May 2010 15:09
On May 31, 2:35 pm, Ry Nohryb <jo...(a)jorgechamorro.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 8:01 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 31, 12:11 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > (...)
> > > Keep up the good fight! Still programming in assembly language?
>
> > That doesn't make any sense either.  I am programming in the same
> > language as you and your "engineer" friends.  HTH.
>
> Yes, the same language, not, the same API.

Uh, no. His "engineer" friends are in fact using the same API. He's
using their botched attempt to abstract something they don't
understand in the slightest. Nothing good will come of that.

> The browsers provide an
> (awful) lower-level API that you love to love.

Don't be a clod. It is what it is.

> But people are moving
> towards more powerful, higher level, much less awful APIs, by
> extending the language.

The trouble is they are doing it with such incompetence that the
results are often laughably inept. Did you read the rest of this
thread?

> That's what the -many- libraries (attempt to)
> provide. But you seem not to get it.

Of course I get it. I wrote one, remember?

Get better, Jorge!
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 31 May 2010 18:42
Kenneth Tilton wrote:

> David Mark wrote:
>> You don't understand at all. For one, these "engineers" are the ones
>> who are screwing up in the first place. They are selling you the
>> problem and a lifetime subscription to their future (temporary)
>> solutions.
>
> I explained elsewhere that I know from examining their code (and from
> seeing the result) how good they are, so this argument just begs the
> question to which you have the incorrect answer.

Why I am suddenly thinking of that line from MIB?
“Imagine what you'll 'know' tomorrow.”


F'up2 cljs

PointedEars
--
Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on
a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web,
when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another
computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee
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