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From: William Katz on 8 Jul 2005 23:55
I currently have an open ticket with ATI on the following problem, but I
thought I would seek out the help of the usenet community in hopes of
fixing this.

First here are the specs of my computer:

ASUS P5WD2 Premium motherboard (BIOS 0204)
Intel Pentium 4 3.8Ghz CPU
1GB Corsair TWIN2X1024A-6400 (DDR2-800Mhz)
ATI All-in-Wonder X600 Pro (PCI Express-16)
Maxtor 200GB S-ATA drive (Model 6L200M0) on Intel ICH7 SATA1 connector
WDC 120GB IDE/ATA drive (Model WD1200JB) on BLUE Intel ICH7 Primary IDE
Plextor PX-716SA DVD-RW drive on Intel ICH7 SATA3 connector
Sony 3.5" floppy drive

IDE Configuration -> "Configure SATA As" set to "AHCI" in BIOS.


Windows XP Professional w/SP2 (all critical Windows Updates)

The motherboard has a built-in Realtek ALC882D HD audio codec.

After installing Windows XP Professional w/SP2, I install all the
appropriate drivers, such as the Intel Chipset drivers, NIC drivers, etc.

I then install the audio drivers that I downloaded from
http://www.realtek.com.tw/
The driver I downloaded is the Realtek 880D version 1.22 audio driver.
It installs just fine, and I get audio, and the Realtek software works
fine too (ie: Realtek HD Audio Manager/Realtek Sound Effect Manager in the
Control Panel)

*** Here is the problem: ***
I then install the video drivers from ATI's web site. The driver I use is
the ATI Catalyst 5.6 drivers (wdm driver, display driver, and control
panel driver)
After the video drivers install, **audio still works** but the Realtek
programs **do not** work anymore! (The 'Realtek HD Sound Effect Manager'
in the Control Panel does not work, neither does the Realtek mixer icon
show up in the systemtray)
The Realtek audio manager loads up in memory (according to Task Manager)
but does not work! I have to kill the RTHDCPL.exe process because it
causes general system slowness and instability.

I tried following ATI's topic #737-19543 which says to load the Realtek
audio drivers *after* installing the Catalyst drivers, but the result is
the same!!

What I believe is happening is some kind of software conflict between ATI
Catalyst 5.6 and Realtek audio drivers.
Or, maybe I am doing something wrong??
Either ATI or Realtek should come out with a 'fix' for this issue?


Does anyone have a similar hardware setup and experience the same
problem?? Anyone with the Realtek ALC882D codec on their motherboard,
using the Realtek audio drivers of course, and ATI Catalyst 5.6 ??

Any help would be appreciated!
TIA

--
William D. Katz "a good skier"

Internet: wkatz(a)nyx.net
Internet: druid(a)dorsai.org
From: Ted Lozenge on 9 Jul 2005 01:52
Well thank god for you.

btw.. why are you using the 25 cent onboard sound in that system.




"William Katz" <wkatz(a)nyx.net> wrote in message
news:1120881325.991500(a)irys.nyx.net...
>I currently have an open ticket with ATI on the following problem, but I
> thought I would seek out the help of the usenet community in hopes of
> fixing this.
>
> First here are the specs of my computer:
>
> ASUS P5WD2 Premium motherboard (BIOS 0204)
> Intel Pentium 4 3.8Ghz CPU
> 1GB Corsair TWIN2X1024A-6400 (DDR2-800Mhz)
> ATI All-in-Wonder X600 Pro (PCI Express-16)
> Maxtor 200GB S-ATA drive (Model 6L200M0) on Intel ICH7 SATA1 connector
> WDC 120GB IDE/ATA drive (Model WD1200JB) on BLUE Intel ICH7 Primary IDE
> Plextor PX-716SA DVD-RW drive on Intel ICH7 SATA3 connector
> Sony 3.5" floppy drive
>
> IDE Configuration -> "Configure SATA As" set to "AHCI" in BIOS.
>
>
> Windows XP Professional w/SP2 (all critical Windows Updates)
>
> The motherboard has a built-in Realtek ALC882D HD audio codec.
>
> After installing Windows XP Professional w/SP2, I install all the
> appropriate drivers, such as the Intel Chipset drivers, NIC drivers, etc.
>
> I then install the audio drivers that I downloaded from
> http://www.realtek.com.tw/
> The driver I downloaded is the Realtek 880D version 1.22 audio driver.
> It installs just fine, and I get audio, and the Realtek software works
> fine too (ie: Realtek HD Audio Manager/Realtek Sound Effect Manager in the
> Control Panel)
>
> *** Here is the problem: ***
> I then install the video drivers from ATI's web site. The driver I use is
> the ATI Catalyst 5.6 drivers (wdm driver, display driver, and control
> panel driver)
> After the video drivers install, **audio still works** but the Realtek
> programs **do not** work anymore! (The 'Realtek HD Sound Effect Manager'
> in the Control Panel does not work, neither does the Realtek mixer icon
> show up in the systemtray)
> The Realtek audio manager loads up in memory (according to Task Manager)
> but does not work! I have to kill the RTHDCPL.exe process because it
> causes general system slowness and instability.
>
> I tried following ATI's topic #737-19543 which says to load the Realtek
> audio drivers *after* installing the Catalyst drivers, but the result is
> the same!!
>
> What I believe is happening is some kind of software conflict between ATI
> Catalyst 5.6 and Realtek audio drivers.
> Or, maybe I am doing something wrong??
> Either ATI or Realtek should come out with a 'fix' for this issue?
>
>
> Does anyone have a similar hardware setup and experience the same
> problem?? Anyone with the Realtek ALC882D codec on their motherboard,
> using the Realtek audio drivers of course, and ATI Catalyst 5.6 ??
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
> TIA
>
> --
> William D. Katz "a good skier"
>
> Internet: wkatz(a)nyx.net
> Internet: druid(a)dorsai.org


From: milleron on 9 Jul 2005 12:46
On 09 Jul 2005 03:55:27 GMT, wkatz(a)nyx.net (William Katz) wrote:

>I currently have an open ticket with ATI on the following problem, but I
>thought I would seek out the help of the usenet community in hopes of
>fixing this.
>
>First here are the specs of my computer:
>
>ASUS P5WD2 Premium motherboard (BIOS 0204)
>Intel Pentium 4 3.8Ghz CPU
>1GB Corsair TWIN2X1024A-6400 (DDR2-800Mhz)
>ATI All-in-Wonder X600 Pro (PCI Express-16)
>Maxtor 200GB S-ATA drive (Model 6L200M0) on Intel ICH7 SATA1 connector
>WDC 120GB IDE/ATA drive (Model WD1200JB) on BLUE Intel ICH7 Primary IDE
>Plextor PX-716SA DVD-RW drive on Intel ICH7 SATA3 connector
>Sony 3.5" floppy drive
>
>IDE Configuration -> "Configure SATA As" set to "AHCI" in BIOS.
>
>
>Windows XP Professional w/SP2 (all critical Windows Updates)
>
>The motherboard has a built-in Realtek ALC882D HD audio codec.
>
>After installing Windows XP Professional w/SP2, I install all the
>appropriate drivers, such as the Intel Chipset drivers, NIC drivers, etc.
>
>I then install the audio drivers that I downloaded from
>http://www.realtek.com.tw/
>The driver I downloaded is the Realtek 880D version 1.22 audio driver.
>It installs just fine, and I get audio, and the Realtek software works
>fine too (ie: Realtek HD Audio Manager/Realtek Sound Effect Manager in the
>Control Panel)
>
>*** Here is the problem: ***
>I then install the video drivers from ATI's web site. The driver I use is
>the ATI Catalyst 5.6 drivers (wdm driver, display driver, and control
>panel driver)
>After the video drivers install, **audio still works** but the Realtek
>programs **do not** work anymore! (The 'Realtek HD Sound Effect Manager'
>in the Control Panel does not work, neither does the Realtek mixer icon
>show up in the systemtray)
>The Realtek audio manager loads up in memory (according to Task Manager)
>but does not work! I have to kill the RTHDCPL.exe process because it
>causes general system slowness and instability.
>
>I tried following ATI's topic #737-19543 which says to load the Realtek
>audio drivers *after* installing the Catalyst drivers, but the result is
>the same!!
>
>What I believe is happening is some kind of software conflict between ATI
>Catalyst 5.6 and Realtek audio drivers.
>Or, maybe I am doing something wrong??
>Either ATI or Realtek should come out with a 'fix' for this issue?
>
>
>Does anyone have a similar hardware setup and experience the same
>problem?? Anyone with the Realtek ALC882D codec on their motherboard,
>using the Realtek audio drivers of course, and ATI Catalyst 5.6 ??
>
>Any help would be appreciated!
>TIA

I don't have that motherboard, but I do have an Asus board (A8N-SLI
Premium) with Realtek onboard sound (different chip from yours) and an
ATI card. My Realtek software does work with Cat 5.6, BUT the sound
is not flawless. When playing streaming audio from Rhapsody, quick
mouse movements not only interrupt the sound but make it skip both
backwards and forwards. Slow mouse movements cause no problem.
I think this is pretty clearly a conflict between the two drivers.
Cat 5.6 causes no sound problems on my other ATI-equipped computer
which has an Audigy card in it.

Sorry I don't have a solution for you, but I thought you might find my
experience useful in corresponding with ATI or Realtek. I'm not
assuming that this is a problem with the Catalyst drivers. It might
just as easily be poor coding in the Realtek drivers/'software.
My sound quality, by the way, is entirely satisfactory for this
non-audiophile.

Ron
From: William Katz on 9 Jul 2005 15:20
In alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus Ted Lozenge <tlozenge(a)calllozenge.com> wrote:
> Well thank god for you.
>
> btw.. why are you using the 25 cent onboard sound in that system.

I was going to reply via email to you, but since it bounced back with
'Host uknown' I just posted a follow up:

The onboard sound is pretty good. These days, newer motherboards like the
one I have, are getting better sound codecs. Besides, I am not that big
of an audiophile. The ALC882D High Definition audio is fine for me.

Anyway, was there any particular reason you replied with a follow up to my
post, or did you hopefully have something useful to contribute?

William
From: William Katz on 9 Jul 2005 16:21
milleron <millerdot90(a)spamlessosu.edu> wrote:
> I don't have that motherboard, but I do have an Asus board (A8N-SLI
> Premium) with Realtek onboard sound (different chip from yours) and an
> ATI card. My Realtek software does work with Cat 5.6, BUT the sound
> is not flawless. When playing streaming audio from Rhapsody, quick
> mouse movements not only interrupt the sound but make it skip both
> backwards and forwards. Slow mouse movements cause no problem.
> I think this is pretty clearly a conflict between the two drivers.
> Cat 5.6 causes no sound problems on my other ATI-equipped computer
> which has an Audigy card in it.
>
> Sorry I don't have a solution for you, but I thought you might find my
> experience useful in corresponding with ATI or Realtek. I'm not
> assuming that this is a problem with the Catalyst drivers. It might
> just as easily be poor coding in the Realtek drivers/'software.
> My sound quality, by the way, is entirely satisfactory for this
> non-audiophile.
>
> Ron

Ron,
Thanks for this info.
I actually have sent an email to Realtek as well, but have not heard back
from them yet. This was was four days ago.
Maybe it has to do with the 'ATI WDM Rage Theater Audio' driver part of
Catalyst 5.6? I'm not exactly sure, but I know it must be something with
ATI and Realtek drivers/software not being 100% kosher together.

If this doesn't get resolved, either by ATI or Realtek (or even ASUS? ->
new bios update file fixing it??) I see two choices for me:
- Disable the onboard audio and put in my Soundblaster Audigy 2ZS.
- Get a different video card, and seperate tv tuner card.

I hope I don't have to go either of these two routes though.

--
William D. Katz "a good skier"

Internet: wkatz(a)nyx.net
Internet: druid(a)dorsai.org
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