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From: pdrahn on 5 May 2010 15:59 On May 5, 11:52 am, sta...(a)prolynx.com wrote: > On May 5, 11:28 am, "pdr...(a)coinet.com" <co_far...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 5, 8:40 am, "Robert Swinney" <judy...(a)tx.rr.com> wrote: > > > > "Beautiful" is the word ! What was the function of the (apparent) Amtrac B power unit? The old > > > steamer appeared to be under nearly full load judging by the sound it made. Was the Amtrac B there > > > for aux functions, such as air conditioning, etc used in the coaches? > > > > Bob Swinney > > > > "Joe788" <larryro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > >news:b43b24d4-05c3-44f2-856a-aa7671ace2aa(a)b7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com.... > > > Beautiful restored 1927 4-8-4 steam locomotive that on May 1st 2010 > > > made a special overnight trip to San Diego. > > > > My new girlfriend and I were walking in Cardiff By The Sea on Saturday > > > when it passed by. Just an awesome sight to behold. > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5VG5OQwTNE > > > Got to be the reason, Bob. The power needed just for the AC would have > > killed the generator on the steam loco. I wondered for a while myself > > when I saw that. > > > Grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. > > Paul- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Supposedly, in days of old, they worked out how to get AC from steam > for railroad car comfort. Ran across that in an old refrigeration > book. No diagrams as to how it worked and I'm pretty sure it wasn't > using steam to heat the business side of an absorption unit. > Supposedly used the same hookup that they used for steam heating in > the passenger cars. Anybody seen anything about it anywhere? > > Stan Well, after a whole lot of Googling, here is the answer : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_end_power Paul
From: Joe788 on 6 May 2010 00:07 On May 5, 4:59 am, Joe788 <larryro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Beautiful restored 1927 4-8-4 steam locomotive that on May 1st 2010 > made a special overnight trip to San Diego. > > My new girlfriend and I were walking in Cardiff By The Sea on Saturday > when it passed by. Just an awesome sight to behold. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5VG5OQwTNE Apparently this steam locomotive sat for years in a park of some sort before it was restored and put back into occasional action. Things like this aren't meant to be on display. They're meant to run. The latter maybe just my opinion but it should be fact. Here are some questions for those who wish to share their knowledge or do the research: How do they put the water in it? I'm not aware of any water towers that are located next to train tracks in the San Diego, California area. How much water does this locomotive hold and how often does it need to be refilled?
From: Cliff on 6 May 2010 06:16 On Wed, 5 May 2010 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT), "pdrahn(a)coinet.com" <co_farmer(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On May 5, 11:52�am, sta...(a)prolynx.com wrote: >> On May 5, 11:28�am, "pdr...(a)coinet.com" <co_far...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On May 5, 8:40�am, "Robert Swinney" <judy...(a)tx.rr.com> wrote: >> >> > > "Beautiful" is the word ! �What was the function of the (apparent) Amtrac B power unit? �The old >> > > steamer appeared to be under nearly full load judging by the sound it made. �Was the Amtrac B there >> > > for aux functions, such as air conditioning, etc used in the coaches? >> >> > > Bob Swinney >> >> > > "Joe788" <larryro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> > >news:b43b24d4-05c3-44f2-856a-aa7671ace2aa(a)b7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... >> > > Beautiful restored 1927 4-8-4 steam locomotive that on May 1st 2010 >> > > made a special overnight trip to San Diego. >> >> > > My new girlfriend and I were walking in Cardiff By The Sea on Saturday >> > > when it passed by. Just an awesome sight to behold. >> >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5VG5OQwTNE >> >> > Got to be the reason, Bob. The power needed just for the AC would have >> > killed the generator on the steam loco. I wondered for a while myself >> > when I saw that. >> >> > Grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. >> > Paul- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> Supposedly, in days of old, they worked out how to get AC from steam >> for railroad car comfort. �Ran across that in an old refrigeration >> book. �No diagrams as to how it worked and I'm pretty sure it wasn't >> using steam to heat the business side of an absorption unit. >> Supposedly used the same hookup that they used for steam heating in >> the passenger cars. �Anybody seen anything about it anywhere? >> >> Stan > >Well, after a whole lot of Googling, here is the answer : >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_end_power ?? >Paul
From: Alphonso on 6 May 2010 19:31 > Here are some questions for those who wish to share their knowledge or > do the research: > > How do they put the water in it? I'm not aware of any water towers > that are located next to train tracks in the San Diego, California > area. > > How much water does this locomotive hold and how often does it need to > be refilled? > Water truck. Pump water thru a hose from truck to fill hatch on top of tender. Originally built(1927) with 15000 gallons water and twenty tons of coal capacity. Converted(1938) to oil burner, 7101 gallons and 20000 gallons of water. Industry practice was 100 to 200 miles before water stop. Link to organization that owns the locomotive: http://www.sbrhs.org/ Oh yeah, the power unit behind the loco provides electricity to the passenger cars. The stream dynamo generator of the loco probably produces a different voltage than what the cars want. And the amp load is probably more than it can safely handle. I think at one time there was a steam generator in the tender to provide power for the cars. In some instances there were steam lines that ran to the cars to run dynamos that powered ammonia refrigerated air conditioners. Other instances of belt driven compressors for the air conditioners. -- Remove "nospam" to get to me.
From: Cliff on 7 May 2010 09:09
On Tue, 4 May 2010 21:59:04 -0700 (PDT), Joe788 <larryrozer(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >My new girlfriend and I were Did you whip out your bog & wave it at her? Was she impressed? -- Cliff |