From: Ian Jackson on
In message <_IednQW6vL_VJUHWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A.
Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes
>
>Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>> In message <JMadnWcTILZFPUHWnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A.
>> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes
>> >
>> >Ian Jackson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My PSU fan seized solid, very solid (nice and quiet, though). The
>> >> replacement seemed rather noisy for my tastes. I eventually got the
>> >> original fan freed off. [It needed the application of a hot soldering
>> >> iron to the end of the spindle.] It ran for 18 months after being well
>> >> re-oiled with WD40. It was still going fine when, some time ago, I doing
>> >> a spot of once-in-a-while spring cleaning inside the case. So I re-oiled
>> >> it again with some '3-in-1' oil. It's still running fine.
>> >
>> >
>> > WD40 isn't a lubricant. It was developed for 'Water Displacement',
>> >or in plain english, to spray on ignition wires that got wet.
>> >
>> Regardless of what it was developed for, WD40 does leave an oily layer.
>> It penetrates well, and prevents/halts rust. It also serves as a
>> sort-term lubricant. Despite what the purists might say, it does work
>> well as a switch cleaner/lubricant.
>
>
> Which dries into a nasty, insulating film over time. I use PTFE to
>lube small motors. It Works a lot better than WD40 ever could, and lasts
>a lot longer.
>
><http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102643>
>
>
>> > Which '3-in-1' oil. That is a brand, not a type.
>> >
>> It's the type in a small metal tin with a plastic nozzle - the very same
>> tin I've had on a shelf at the back of the garage for about 40 years. I
>> haven't a clue what the official grade is, other than its the general
>> purpose domestic stuff, like you'd use for oiling door hinges and
>> bicycle chains. And latterly, of course, computer
>
>
> '3-in-1' does make an electric motor oil.
>
Don't get me wrong. I'm not 'recommending' WD40 or 3-in-1 bicycle oil
for lubricating computer fans. It's just that I needed something, and
those were what I had immediately at hand. The sky did not fall, and
continues not to do so.
--
Ian
From: Michael A. Terrell on

Ian Jackson wrote:
>
> In message <_IednQW6vL_VJUHWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A.
> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes
> >
> >Ian Jackson wrote:
> >>
> >> In message <JMadnWcTILZFPUHWnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A.
> >> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes
> >> >
> >> >Ian Jackson wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My PSU fan seized solid, very solid (nice and quiet, though). The
> >> >> replacement seemed rather noisy for my tastes. I eventually got the
> >> >> original fan freed off. [It needed the application of a hot soldering
> >> >> iron to the end of the spindle.] It ran for 18 months after being well
> >> >> re-oiled with WD40. It was still going fine when, some time ago, I doing
> >> >> a spot of once-in-a-while spring cleaning inside the case. So I re-oiled
> >> >> it again with some '3-in-1' oil. It's still running fine.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > WD40 isn't a lubricant. It was developed for 'Water Displacement',
> >> >or in plain english, to spray on ignition wires that got wet.
> >> >
> >> Regardless of what it was developed for, WD40 does leave an oily layer.
> >> It penetrates well, and prevents/halts rust. It also serves as a
> >> sort-term lubricant. Despite what the purists might say, it does work
> >> well as a switch cleaner/lubricant.
> >
> >
> > Which dries into a nasty, insulating film over time. I use PTFE to
> >lube small motors. It Works a lot better than WD40 ever could, and lasts
> >a lot longer.
> >
> ><http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102643>
> >
> >
> >> > Which '3-in-1' oil. That is a brand, not a type.
> >> >
> >> It's the type in a small metal tin with a plastic nozzle - the very same
> >> tin I've had on a shelf at the back of the garage for about 40 years. I
> >> haven't a clue what the official grade is, other than its the general
> >> purpose domestic stuff, like you'd use for oiling door hinges and
> >> bicycle chains. And latterly, of course, computer
> >
> >
> > '3-in-1' does make an electric motor oil.
> >
> Don't get me wrong. I'm not 'recommending' WD40 or 3-in-1 bicycle oil
> for lubricating computer fans. It's just that I needed something, and
> those were what I had immediately at hand. The sky did not fall, and
> continues not to do so.


I have had to clean up a lot of messes caused by people who used both
of those. I know gun collectors who have spent a lot of time removing
the hardened film of WD 40 off of the gun parts they are restoring.
They won't even allow a can of it around their homes or shops.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Ian Jackson on
In message <PdmdnafF4qSdAkDWnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A.
Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes
>
>Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>> In message <_IednQW6vL_VJUHWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A.
>> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes
>> >
>> >Ian Jackson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In message <JMadnWcTILZFPUHWnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A.
>> >> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes
>> >> >
>> >> >Ian Jackson wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My PSU fan seized solid, very solid (nice and quiet, though). The
>> >> >> replacement seemed rather noisy for my tastes. I eventually got the
>> >> >> original fan freed off. [It needed the application of a hot soldering
>> >> >> iron to the end of the spindle.] It ran for 18 months after being well
>> >> >> re-oiled with WD40. It was still going fine when, some time
>> >> >>doing
>> >> >> a spot of once-in-a-while spring cleaning inside the case. So I
>> >> >>oiled
>> >> >> it again with some '3-in-1' oil. It's still running fine.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > WD40 isn't a lubricant. It was developed for 'Water Displacement',
>> >> >or in plain english, to spray on ignition wires that got wet.
>> >> >
>> >> Regardless of what it was developed for, WD40 does leave an oily layer.
>> >> It penetrates well, and prevents/halts rust. It also serves as a
>> >> sort-term lubricant. Despite what the purists might say, it does work
>> >> well as a switch cleaner/lubricant.
>> >
>> >
>> > Which dries into a nasty, insulating film over time. I use PTFE to
>> >lube small motors. It Works a lot better than WD40 ever could, and lasts
>> >a lot longer.
>> >
>> ><http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102643>
>> >
>> >
>> >> > Which '3-in-1' oil. That is a brand, not a type.
>> >> >
>> >> It's the type in a small metal tin with a plastic nozzle - the very same
>> >> tin I've had on a shelf at the back of the garage for about 40 years. I
>> >> haven't a clue what the official grade is, other than its the general
>> >> purpose domestic stuff, like you'd use for oiling door hinges and
>> >> bicycle chains. And latterly, of course, computer
>> >
>> >
>> > '3-in-1' does make an electric motor oil.
>> >
>> Don't get me wrong. I'm not 'recommending' WD40 or 3-in-1 bicycle oil
>> for lubricating computer fans. It's just that I needed something, and
>> those were what I had immediately at hand. The sky did not fall, and
>> continues not to do so.
>
>
> I have had to clean up a lot of messes caused by people who used both
>of those. I know gun collectors who have spent a lot of time removing
>the hardened film of WD 40 off of the gun parts they are restoring.
>They won't even allow a can of it around their homes or shops.
>
It's a funny old world. The things that some people swear BY are often
exactly the same things that others swear AT!
--
Ian
From: UCLAN on
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

>>>>> Which '3-in-1' oil. That is a brand, not a type.
>>>>
>>>>It's the type in a small metal tin with a plastic nozzle - the very same
>>>>tin I've had on a shelf at the back of the garage for about 40 years. I
>>>>haven't a clue what the official grade is, other than its the general
>>>>purpose domestic stuff, like you'd use for oiling door hinges and
>>>>bicycle chains. And latterly, of course, computer
>>>
>>> '3-in-1' does make an electric motor oil.
>>
>>My favorite "3-in-1" product:
>>
>>http://www.3inone.com/products/white-lithium-grease/
>
> I use lithium grease, but another brand that I can pick up from a car
> parts dealer just down the street. I also use PB Blaster and Breakfree.

I like the "3-in-1" spray on lithium grease because I can reach hard to
get to places with the spray tube, yet it dries with the consistency of
regular lithium grease.
From: UCLAN on
mm wrote:

>>Any 2-wire, 80mm, 12VDC, 0.30A (approx) will do. Got a Radio Shack nearby?
>>http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102826 will do.
>>
>>Probably cheaper at some place like Frys.
>
> Radio shack has a great webpage in many ways, but one enormous flaw is
> that if you click on a link, it might say the part is out of stock,
> even when stores have it.

As with all websites (Petco, Best Buy, Home Depot, etc.) information
given for a product (availability, price, etc.) is for the website
ONLY! There is no way a website can pretend to keep up with the stock
details of thousands of retail stores. And only in a minority of cases
does a retail store match the price of a website. Only a fool would
think that a website saying "out-of-stock" would necessarily mean that
a retail store in BF, Iowa, was also out of stock.

I just bought a nice vinyl screen door (I'm 200' from the ocean) from
Home Depot that wasn't even available on their website. Apples and
oranges.