From: Ian Jackson on 2 May 2010 03:34 In message <_IednQW6vL_VJUHWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes > >Ian Jackson wrote: >> >> In message <JMadnWcTILZFPUHWnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A. >> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes >> > >> >Ian Jackson wrote: >> >> >> >> My PSU fan seized solid, very solid (nice and quiet, though). The >> >> replacement seemed rather noisy for my tastes. I eventually got the >> >> original fan freed off. [It needed the application of a hot soldering >> >> iron to the end of the spindle.] It ran for 18 months after being well >> >> re-oiled with WD40. It was still going fine when, some time ago, I doing >> >> a spot of once-in-a-while spring cleaning inside the case. So I re-oiled >> >> it again with some '3-in-1' oil. It's still running fine. >> > >> > >> > WD40 isn't a lubricant. It was developed for 'Water Displacement', >> >or in plain english, to spray on ignition wires that got wet. >> > >> Regardless of what it was developed for, WD40 does leave an oily layer. >> It penetrates well, and prevents/halts rust. It also serves as a >> sort-term lubricant. Despite what the purists might say, it does work >> well as a switch cleaner/lubricant. > > > Which dries into a nasty, insulating film over time. I use PTFE to >lube small motors. It Works a lot better than WD40 ever could, and lasts >a lot longer. > ><http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102643> > > >> > Which '3-in-1' oil. That is a brand, not a type. >> > >> It's the type in a small metal tin with a plastic nozzle - the very same >> tin I've had on a shelf at the back of the garage for about 40 years. I >> haven't a clue what the official grade is, other than its the general >> purpose domestic stuff, like you'd use for oiling door hinges and >> bicycle chains. And latterly, of course, computer > > > '3-in-1' does make an electric motor oil. > Don't get me wrong. I'm not 'recommending' WD40 or 3-in-1 bicycle oil for lubricating computer fans. It's just that I needed something, and those were what I had immediately at hand. The sky did not fall, and continues not to do so. -- Ian
From: Michael A. Terrell on 2 May 2010 11:49 Ian Jackson wrote: > > In message <_IednQW6vL_VJUHWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A. > Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes > > > >Ian Jackson wrote: > >> > >> In message <JMadnWcTILZFPUHWnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A. > >> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes > >> > > >> >Ian Jackson wrote: > >> >> > >> >> My PSU fan seized solid, very solid (nice and quiet, though). The > >> >> replacement seemed rather noisy for my tastes. I eventually got the > >> >> original fan freed off. [It needed the application of a hot soldering > >> >> iron to the end of the spindle.] It ran for 18 months after being well > >> >> re-oiled with WD40. It was still going fine when, some time ago, I doing > >> >> a spot of once-in-a-while spring cleaning inside the case. So I re-oiled > >> >> it again with some '3-in-1' oil. It's still running fine. > >> > > >> > > >> > WD40 isn't a lubricant. It was developed for 'Water Displacement', > >> >or in plain english, to spray on ignition wires that got wet. > >> > > >> Regardless of what it was developed for, WD40 does leave an oily layer. > >> It penetrates well, and prevents/halts rust. It also serves as a > >> sort-term lubricant. Despite what the purists might say, it does work > >> well as a switch cleaner/lubricant. > > > > > > Which dries into a nasty, insulating film over time. I use PTFE to > >lube small motors. It Works a lot better than WD40 ever could, and lasts > >a lot longer. > > > ><http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102643> > > > > > >> > Which '3-in-1' oil. That is a brand, not a type. > >> > > >> It's the type in a small metal tin with a plastic nozzle - the very same > >> tin I've had on a shelf at the back of the garage for about 40 years. I > >> haven't a clue what the official grade is, other than its the general > >> purpose domestic stuff, like you'd use for oiling door hinges and > >> bicycle chains. And latterly, of course, computer > > > > > > '3-in-1' does make an electric motor oil. > > > Don't get me wrong. I'm not 'recommending' WD40 or 3-in-1 bicycle oil > for lubricating computer fans. It's just that I needed something, and > those were what I had immediately at hand. The sky did not fall, and > continues not to do so. I have had to clean up a lot of messes caused by people who used both of those. I know gun collectors who have spent a lot of time removing the hardened film of WD 40 off of the gun parts they are restoring. They won't even allow a can of it around their homes or shops. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Ian Jackson on 2 May 2010 12:41 In message <PdmdnafF4qSdAkDWnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes > >Ian Jackson wrote: >> >> In message <_IednQW6vL_VJUHWnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A. >> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes >> > >> >Ian Jackson wrote: >> >> >> >> In message <JMadnWcTILZFPUHWnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A. >> >> Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> writes >> >> > >> >> >Ian Jackson wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> My PSU fan seized solid, very solid (nice and quiet, though). The >> >> >> replacement seemed rather noisy for my tastes. I eventually got the >> >> >> original fan freed off. [It needed the application of a hot soldering >> >> >> iron to the end of the spindle.] It ran for 18 months after being well >> >> >> re-oiled with WD40. It was still going fine when, some time >> >> >>doing >> >> >> a spot of once-in-a-while spring cleaning inside the case. So I >> >> >>oiled >> >> >> it again with some '3-in-1' oil. It's still running fine. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > WD40 isn't a lubricant. It was developed for 'Water Displacement', >> >> >or in plain english, to spray on ignition wires that got wet. >> >> > >> >> Regardless of what it was developed for, WD40 does leave an oily layer. >> >> It penetrates well, and prevents/halts rust. It also serves as a >> >> sort-term lubricant. Despite what the purists might say, it does work >> >> well as a switch cleaner/lubricant. >> > >> > >> > Which dries into a nasty, insulating film over time. I use PTFE to >> >lube small motors. It Works a lot better than WD40 ever could, and lasts >> >a lot longer. >> > >> ><http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102643> >> > >> > >> >> > Which '3-in-1' oil. That is a brand, not a type. >> >> > >> >> It's the type in a small metal tin with a plastic nozzle - the very same >> >> tin I've had on a shelf at the back of the garage for about 40 years. I >> >> haven't a clue what the official grade is, other than its the general >> >> purpose domestic stuff, like you'd use for oiling door hinges and >> >> bicycle chains. And latterly, of course, computer >> > >> > >> > '3-in-1' does make an electric motor oil. >> > >> Don't get me wrong. I'm not 'recommending' WD40 or 3-in-1 bicycle oil >> for lubricating computer fans. It's just that I needed something, and >> those were what I had immediately at hand. The sky did not fall, and >> continues not to do so. > > > I have had to clean up a lot of messes caused by people who used both >of those. I know gun collectors who have spent a lot of time removing >the hardened film of WD 40 off of the gun parts they are restoring. >They won't even allow a can of it around their homes or shops. > It's a funny old world. The things that some people swear BY are often exactly the same things that others swear AT! -- Ian
From: UCLAN on 2 May 2010 13:51 Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>>> Which '3-in-1' oil. That is a brand, not a type. >>>> >>>>It's the type in a small metal tin with a plastic nozzle - the very same >>>>tin I've had on a shelf at the back of the garage for about 40 years. I >>>>haven't a clue what the official grade is, other than its the general >>>>purpose domestic stuff, like you'd use for oiling door hinges and >>>>bicycle chains. And latterly, of course, computer >>> >>> '3-in-1' does make an electric motor oil. >> >>My favorite "3-in-1" product: >> >>http://www.3inone.com/products/white-lithium-grease/ > > I use lithium grease, but another brand that I can pick up from a car > parts dealer just down the street. I also use PB Blaster and Breakfree. I like the "3-in-1" spray on lithium grease because I can reach hard to get to places with the spray tube, yet it dries with the consistency of regular lithium grease.
From: UCLAN on 2 May 2010 14:05
mm wrote: >>Any 2-wire, 80mm, 12VDC, 0.30A (approx) will do. Got a Radio Shack nearby? >>http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102826 will do. >> >>Probably cheaper at some place like Frys. > > Radio shack has a great webpage in many ways, but one enormous flaw is > that if you click on a link, it might say the part is out of stock, > even when stores have it. As with all websites (Petco, Best Buy, Home Depot, etc.) information given for a product (availability, price, etc.) is for the website ONLY! There is no way a website can pretend to keep up with the stock details of thousands of retail stores. And only in a minority of cases does a retail store match the price of a website. Only a fool would think that a website saying "out-of-stock" would necessarily mean that a retail store in BF, Iowa, was also out of stock. I just bought a nice vinyl screen door (I'm 200' from the ocean) from Home Depot that wasn't even available on their website. Apples and oranges. |