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From: Raymond Yohros on 13 Mar 2010 18:19 On Mar 12, 11:55 am, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle > > interactions new knowledge? > > The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10 > explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate > discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was > wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time > it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc. > i dont believe in "Bigger Is Better" but ONLY in the case of cyclotrons. im sure the lhc is in BB territory. there is NO need to ever go bigger than this. if there is, then the whole approach we know of particle physics reaserch is going through a dead end and the only way out its with a new approach. r.y
From: Sam Wormley on 13 Mar 2010 19:09 On 3/13/10 5:19 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: > im sure the lhc is in > BB territory. there is NO need to ever go bigger > than this. The LHC temps are many orders of magnitude below those of the very early universe. Even cosmic rays are 6-12 orders of magnitude greater than the LHC.
From: BillyGates on 13 Mar 2010 19:23 Magnetic wrote: > On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...(a)yandex.ua> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I�m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe. >> >> This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious >> you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize >> there is nothing dramatic you should do. >> >> You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky >> anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your >> fears irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it. > > Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would > understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about > 50%, and stop the LHC. What your saying is that you have a 50% chance to be wrong... so when you are you can use the power of probability to validate your claim and still be right?
From: Raymond Yohros on 13 Mar 2010 20:36 On Mar 13, 4:09 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/13/10 5:19 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: > > > im sure the lhc is in > > BB territory. there is NO need to ever go bigger > > than this. > > The LHC temps are many orders of magnitude below those > of the very early universe. Even cosmic rays are 6-12 > orders of magnitude greater than the LHC. > just like thunder is as hot as the surface of the sun, if you where to compare the highest temps on the lhc with the lowest temps stages of the bb how much will the diference be? remember that in the lhc its only for a fraction of a second. r.y
From: Magnetic on 14 Mar 2010 08:01
The behavior of dangerous condensate, which are bombarded by eV or TeV particles, is analogues to behavior of another condensate nucleus, consisting of protons and antiprotons. Lets suppose that atmosphere consists of protons and stable neutrons. It is theoretically permitted that in the collision of cosmic proton and atmospheric proton, some number (n) of pairs of nuclei and antinuclei were created. Let the nucleus is Hg; the antinucleus is Hg~. Answer the questions, if you are a physicist, on the following questions: 1. What is the minimal energy of cosmic proton in order to make a reaction: p+p+?TeV= n(Hg+Hg~). 2. What is the kinetic energy of protons of atmosphere relatively these cosmo-atmospheric Hg packs of nuclei and antinueclei? 3. What will happen to nuclei? Will they grow or will be ruined? And the same questions for the same reaction on collider. Are consequences for condensates, created at cosmo-atmospheric collision, analogues to that, which were made on the collider? Dangerous condensates: 1/ Magnetic hole. Creation: p + p + ? TeV = p + p + M_{n} Growth: M_{n} + p = M_{n+1} + e^{+} + 300 MeV, M_{n+1} + p = M_{n+2} + e^{+} + 300 MeV, Explosion of Earth. 2/ Pure strange matter. Creation: p + p + ?TeV = p + p + N(uds) + N(u~d~s~) Growth: N(uds) + p = (N+1)(uds) + K^{+} = (N+1)(uds) + e^{+} + 500 MeV. (N+1)(uds) + n = (N+2)(uds) + K^{0} = (N+2)(uds) + 500 MeV. Explosion of Earth. 3/ Mixed subnuclear condensates. Explosion of Earth. |