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From: Peter Taylor on 5 Aug 2010 05:38
On 8/5/2010 2:25 AM, KernelDebugger wrote:
> "Peter Taylor"<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:i31vcu$sed$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 7/31/2010 8:48 PM, Doum wrote:
>>> Peter Taylor<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> �crivait
>>> news:i2s5e2$a72$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> On 7/29/2010 4:59 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>>>> In news:i2s022$hs9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
>>>>> Peter Taylor<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> typed:
>>>>>> On 7/29/2010 4:04 AM, Twayne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You mean you only *may* use it only exactly as specified
>>>>>>>> in the EULA. What you *can* do with it is another story.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol, maybe so in the classroom! If it's MS saying it, they
>>>>>>> are telling you what you CAN do with it. You MAY NOT do
>>>>>>> anything else<g>. It's like participles; sometimes it's
>>>>>>> hard to not use a participle without it hanging, on the
>>>>>>> end, of a sentence, about something, sort of. lol HTH,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twayne`
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, if you want to have the same XP license on two
>>>>>> different computers, all you have to do is wait 120 days
>>>>>> after the first install was activated and then you can
>>>>>> install it on another machine and it will activate, become
>>>>>> genuine, etc. The EULA says you *may* not do that but in
>>>>>> practice, you *can*. The same thing is true with Office. It
>>>>>> doesn't matter if the license is OEM or Retail. The only
>>>>>> time you would would have a problem is if the license is a
>>>>>> branded OEM from the likes of Acer, HP or Dell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Untl you come to wanting to do updates or anything with the MS site
>>>>> that requires verification. 120 days doesn't mean the old records
>>>>> don't exist; they do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, they don't. They wipe the slate every 120 days.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What would happen if "windows update" runs WGA on both machine within 120
>>> days?
>>
>> Auto updates, with it set to inform but not download or install. Pick the
>> updates you want when AU informs you there's updates available, although,
>> as both are legit licenses, WGA would probably not squawk. WGA is not a
>> security update so you can safely hide it from ever offering itself again,
>> although, as new versions of WGA come out, they will also need to be
>> hidden if you so choose to do so.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Taylor
>
> I purchased a WinXP OEM CD from ebay, installed it and it activated okay. I
> went to MS updates, and kaboom, big screen warning, this version is
> fraudulent, this is not an authentic Microsoft product. So I turned it in
> for an authentic one.
>
>

How do you know you didn't get a false positive when you went to Windows
Updates?

--
Peter Taylor
From: "KernelDebugger" kerneldebugger on 5 Aug 2010 19:08

"Peter Taylor" <noemailspam(a)please.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:i3e0qa$49e$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On 8/5/2010 2:25 AM, KernelDebugger wrote:
>> "Peter Taylor"<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:i31vcu$sed$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 7/31/2010 8:48 PM, Doum wrote:
>>>> Peter Taylor<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> �crivait
>>>> news:i2s5e2$a72$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/29/2010 4:59 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>>>>> In news:i2s022$hs9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
>>>>>> Peter Taylor<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> typed:
>>>>>>> On 7/29/2010 4:04 AM, Twayne wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You mean you only *may* use it only exactly as specified
>>>>>>>>> in the EULA. What you *can* do with it is another story.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lol, maybe so in the classroom! If it's MS saying it, they
>>>>>>>> are telling you what you CAN do with it. You MAY NOT do
>>>>>>>> anything else<g>. It's like participles; sometimes it's
>>>>>>>> hard to not use a participle without it hanging, on the
>>>>>>>> end, of a sentence, about something, sort of. lol HTH,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Twayne`
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example, if you want to have the same XP license on two
>>>>>>> different computers, all you have to do is wait 120 days
>>>>>>> after the first install was activated and then you can
>>>>>>> install it on another machine and it will activate, become
>>>>>>> genuine, etc. The EULA says you *may* not do that but in
>>>>>>> practice, you *can*. The same thing is true with Office. It
>>>>>>> doesn't matter if the license is OEM or Retail. The only
>>>>>>> time you would would have a problem is if the license is a
>>>>>>> branded OEM from the likes of Acer, HP or Dell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Untl you come to wanting to do updates or anything with the MS site
>>>>>> that requires verification. 120 days doesn't mean the old records
>>>>>> don't exist; they do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, they don't. They wipe the slate every 120 days.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What would happen if "windows update" runs WGA on both machine within
>>>> 120
>>>> days?
>>>
>>> Auto updates, with it set to inform but not download or install. Pick
>>> the
>>> updates you want when AU informs you there's updates available,
>>> although,
>>> as both are legit licenses, WGA would probably not squawk. WGA is not a
>>> security update so you can safely hide it from ever offering itself
>>> again,
>>> although, as new versions of WGA come out, they will also need to be
>>> hidden if you so choose to do so.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter Taylor
>>
>> I purchased a WinXP OEM CD from ebay, installed it and it activated okay.
>> I
>> went to MS updates, and kaboom, big screen warning, this version is
>> fraudulent, this is not an authentic Microsoft product. So I turned it
>> in
>> for an authentic one.
>>
>>
>
> How do you know you didn't get a false positive when you went to Windows
> Updates?
>
> --
> Peter Taylor

False positive, no sir; Microsoft confirmed that the CD was counterfeit
after I
sent it to them; it was replaced free of charge.


From: Peter Taylor on 6 Aug 2010 05:42
On 8/6/2010 1:08 AM, KernelDebugger wrote:
> "Peter Taylor"<noemailspam(a)please.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:i3e0qa$49e$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 8/5/2010 2:25 AM, KernelDebugger wrote:
>>> "Peter Taylor"<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:i31vcu$sed$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> On 7/31/2010 8:48 PM, Doum wrote:
>>>>> Peter Taylor<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> �crivait
>>>>> news:i2s5e2$a72$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/29/2010 4:59 PM, Twayne wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:i2s022$hs9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
>>>>>>> Peter Taylor<fakeemail(a)fakeemail.com.invalid> typed:
>>>>>>>> On 7/29/2010 4:04 AM, Twayne wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You mean you only *may* use it only exactly as specified
>>>>>>>>>> in the EULA. What you *can* do with it is another story.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> lol, maybe so in the classroom! If it's MS saying it, they
>>>>>>>>> are telling you what you CAN do with it. You MAY NOT do
>>>>>>>>> anything else<g>. It's like participles; sometimes it's
>>>>>>>>> hard to not use a participle without it hanging, on the
>>>>>>>>> end, of a sentence, about something, sort of. lol HTH,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Twayne`
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example, if you want to have the same XP license on two
>>>>>>>> different computers, all you have to do is wait 120 days
>>>>>>>> after the first install was activated and then you can
>>>>>>>> install it on another machine and it will activate, become
>>>>>>>> genuine, etc. The EULA says you *may* not do that but in
>>>>>>>> practice, you *can*. The same thing is true with Office. It
>>>>>>>> doesn't matter if the license is OEM or Retail. The only
>>>>>>>> time you would would have a problem is if the license is a
>>>>>>>> branded OEM from the likes of Acer, HP or Dell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Untl you come to wanting to do updates or anything with the MS site
>>>>>>> that requires verification. 120 days doesn't mean the old records
>>>>>>> don't exist; they do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, they don't. They wipe the slate every 120 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What would happen if "windows update" runs WGA on both machine within
>>>>> 120
>>>>> days?
>>>>
>>>> Auto updates, with it set to inform but not download or install. Pick
>>>> the
>>>> updates you want when AU informs you there's updates available,
>>>> although,
>>>> as both are legit licenses, WGA would probably not squawk. WGA is not a
>>>> security update so you can safely hide it from ever offering itself
>>>> again,
>>>> although, as new versions of WGA come out, they will also need to be
>>>> hidden if you so choose to do so.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Peter Taylor
>>>
>>> I purchased a WinXP OEM CD from ebay, installed it and it activated okay.
>>> I
>>> went to MS updates, and kaboom, big screen warning, this version is
>>> fraudulent, this is not an authentic Microsoft product. So I turned it
>>> in
>>> for an authentic one.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> How do you know you didn't get a false positive when you went to Windows
>> Updates?
>>
>> --
>> Peter Taylor
>
> False positive, no sir; Microsoft confirmed that the CD was counterfeit
> after I
> sent it to them; it was replaced free of charge.
>
>

That was nice of them.

--
Peter Taylor
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