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From: Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. on 13 Apr 2010 12:20 Jaya Kumar wrote: > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. > <rvinyard(a)cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: >> >> Jaya Kumar wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:10 AM, Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. >>> <rvinyard(a)cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: >>>> Jaya Kumar wrote: >>> >>> Being concerned about CPU utilization is a good thing. But say for >>> example, your USB ethernet driver or USB audio driver is taking a lot >>> of cpu time packetizing traffic, then would I be correct that your >>> desire is to expose an inter-packetization driver specific sleep time >>> controllable by userspace via sysfs for all ethernet, audio, etc >>> drivers? (by driver specific, I mean the sysfs parameter would be >>> presented by all drivers but the value would be specific to each one, >>> which is the way your current patch would behave for all fb drivers). >>> >> >> I think the answer is yes, whether this were a fb, network, audio, etc. >> If >> there is a clearly defined parameter at which resource utilization can >> be >> adjusted in a standard way. > > Hi Rick, > > Sure, we can find these driver resource utilization choke points, and > maybe even make it sort of standard, but that does not mean that we > should expose all of this to userspace. Adding more userspace tunables > for each driver in order to effect fb, network, audio bus utilization, > is not appealing. So I think we disagree about the fundamentals. > > My conclusion is: I'm opposed this patch, because it exposes the defio > delay parameter for _all_ fb drivers, _each_ through a > /sys/class/graphics/fb_driver_name/defio_delay sysfs entry and also > adds a min/max issue. The behaviour and system impact seen by > userspace when changing the parameter is not standard across the > typical range of systems and devices. More importantly, exposing each > driver's defio delay to userspace is not a good way to address the 2 > underlying functional goals that were raised during this discussion: > 1) being able to control a driver's bus/cpu utilization, and 2) > allowing certain plugins/etc to be able to increase display update > frequency for subregions of the display. > > Just to be verbose, please don't let my rejection of this specific > patch affect your other patches as I see those as being very useful > and close to being suitable for merging. > No problem. I understand the desire to be conservative. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ |