From: Barry Watzman on
Re: "Yeah so? Tell that to the old guy who can barely see the BIG "E" on
the eye chart."

You are missing the point entirely. There ***IS*** a way to make things
arbitrarily bigger, WITHOUT telling the driver that the resolution is
something other than what it really is. Do that (lying to the driver)
will result in artifacts and image degradation that are simply not
necessary just to make things bigger.

BillW50 wrote:
> In news:hissct$r25$1(a)reader1.panix.com,
> the wharf rat typed on Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC):
>> In article <hisl90$jiq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>> Heck this netbook I am using right now has a native screen
>>> resolution of 800x480. If I am running under Linux, I am stuck there
>>> and I really
>> You can easily change it under Linux, too, but you have to RTFM.
>
> That is the problem with Linux, isn't it? Everything is in the dang
> manual which doesn't really exist! But is in pieces all over the
> Internet at zillions of different IP addresses.
>
> Say, this is the 21st Century in the Western world. Wouldn't it just be
> better to put higher resolutions in the display properties so the user
> can just use point and click to get there? You know, like Windows?
>
>>> Unlike you Barry. I don't try to make things harder for those with
>>> disabilities or even those with super abilities. If some guy with
>>> poor eyesight wants to use 800x600 on his 32 inch monitor, I say go
>>> for it.
>> LCD panels display best at native resolution. They use interpolation
>> to display non-native resolutions which lessens image quality.
>
> Yeah so? Tell that to the old guy who can barely see the BIG "E" on the
> eye chart. Or all of those game designers who tells you to use lower
> screen resolutions for improved performance. There are many reasons why
> somebody might not want to use the native LCD screen resolutions. And I
> don't fault anybody who wants to do so.
>
> And if you think LCD panels are that different than color CRTs, think
> again. As take a magnifying glass to a lit CRT screen and you will find
> they are made up of tiny pixels as well. So they are not all that
> different in this respect.
>
From: BillW50 on
In news:hisua0$bag$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
Barry Watzman typed on Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:50:48 -0500:
> If you want to do things the wrong way, fine. Microsoft provided a
> way to adjust the size of things. But telling the driver that the
> screen resolution is one thing when it's really another will degrade
> image quality. FACT.

Yes it will degrade the quality of the image. No argument there. And
being really nearsighted, I am one of the few who can actually see it. I
can actually see every pixel on the screen too without any devices. Same
is true of CRT displays too.

But still, there are lots of benefits of doing so. For myself, it is the
not having to resize all of the windows all of the time switching back
and forth between internal and external displays. Plus the added
performance and lower video and CPU temperatures are also a nice bonus.

Is the image very slightly not as sharp? You bet! Does it matter? Nope,
everything is larger remember? Hell this is heaven compared to my old
..52 pitch color monitors from the 80's. Where even 40x25 character
matrix was thousands of times more fuzzier than 800x600 on this 1440x900
LCD monitor. See what I mean now?

> BillW50 wrote:
>> In news:hiramg$h70$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
>> Barry Watzman typed on Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:10:01 -0500:
>>> You are doing this (attempting to do it) WRONG.
>>>
>>> LCD panels should NEVER be run at ANY resolution other than their
>>> one, fixed resolution. It's not like a CRT, which has no physical
>>> pixels. An LCD does have physical pixels, and that is the ONLY
>>> resolution that should ever be used...
>>
>> Really? The BIOS, POST, and while Windows is loading, doesn't use the
>> screen's native resolution. So how come those that build these things
>> don't listen to you?
>>
>> Heck this netbook I am using right now has a native screen
>> resolution of 800x480. If I am running under Linux, I am stuck there
>> and I really dislike it. But under Windows, I can change it easily
>> to 800x600 which is so much better. And this is the resolution I use
>> 99% of the time. I even have from time to time used higher
>> resolutions to view websites that are very wide.
>>
>> We can use different resolutions in two ways. One method actually
>> uses the screen's native resolution, but you use only a scrolling
>> window of the total desktop. Or if the resolution is less, it might
>> use less of the screen. The other way is reducing the larger
>> resolution to fit into the native resolution. Works well except for
>> those tiny fonts and slows the computer down. lol
>>
>> Unlike you Barry. I don't try to make things harder for those with
>> disabilities or even those with super abilities. If some guy with
>> poor eyesight wants to use 800x600 on his 32 inch monitor, I say go
>> for it. <grin>

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2


From: the wharf rat on
In article <histgd$79e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>And if you think LCD panels are that different than color CRTs, think
>again.

Well, they're different on Earth. What planet are you from?

From: BillW50 on
In news:hj0j33$sd$1(a)reader1.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:04:03 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <histgd$79e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> And if you think LCD panels are that different than color CRTs, think
>> again.
>
> Well, they're different on Earth. What planet are you from?

Too lazy to take a magnifying glass to a color CRT screen, eh? I used to
manufacture them for Philips.

http://express.howstuffworks.com/exp-tv1.htm

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3


From: the wharf rat on
In article <hj0mia$n2n$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Too lazy to take a magnifying glass to a color CRT screen, eh? I used to
>manufacture them for Philips.

Oh, I get it. You're making a joke, right? Nerd humor...

No, really, all kidding aside, what color IS the sky on your
planet? Do you have a tail like the guys in "Avatar" ?