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From: Roger on 13 Jun 2010 07:25 In article <barmar-12A56B.01372213062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <roger-E3E211.21392612062010(a)freenews.netfront.net>, > Roger <roger(a)roger.net> wrote: > > > I always heard I should start a secondary account on my MacBook (Snow > > Leopard) for daily use. So I made an account for myself and use it for > > everything. But recently I found if I log in to my original admin > > account, I don't have "access" to my folders in my secondary account. > > I've tried get info, unlocking, etc., but it still says "you have no > > access." I also repaired permissions. (The folders in my secondary > > account have a little round, red symbol with what looks like a white > > dash or minus sign.) How did this happen? Is it likely to cause any > > problems? > > That's normal. I guess I had a misconception about that then; I thought the admin had complete control over the computer. By default, the only folder that can be accessed by > other accounts is ~/Public. Even admin accounts can't normally override > this restriction. (It's possible to get around it from Terminal using > sudo.) > > When I want to copy files to my admin account, I copy it first to my > Public folder, switch to the admin account, and then open my Public > folder (since this is a pretty common thing, I've put an alias to it in > admin's Dock). Got it, thanks. Rog --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Jolly Roger on 13 Jun 2010 09:02 In article <vilain-DD9E68.22490112062010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: > Having two accounts means you're going to constantly hit permissions > problems between the two accounts. You rarely ever need to actually log into the administrative account, because everything can be done from the normal accounts. So there is nothing I need to transfer between the two. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 13 Jun 2010 09:03 In article <roger-E3E211.21392612062010(a)freenews.netfront.net>, Roger <roger(a)roger.net> wrote: > I always heard I should start a secondary account on my MacBook (Snow > Leopard) for daily use. So I made an account for myself and use it for > everything. But recently I found if I log in to my original admin > account, I don't have "access" to my folders in my secondary account. > I've tried get info, unlocking, etc., but it still says "you have no > access." I also repaired permissions. (The folders in my secondary > account have a little round, red symbol with what looks like a white > dash or minus sign.) How did this happen? Is it likely to cause any > problems? > > Thanks for any ideas, > Rog What is it you think you need to do while logged into the administrative account? I have the same setup, and rarely (once a year MAYBE) log into the admin account. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 13 Jun 2010 09:14 In article <4c146e57$0$2182$c30e2946(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, Jason S <jasonsavlov(a)me.com> wrote: > On 2010-06-12 22:24:07 -0400, Mr. Uh Clem said: > > > Davoud wrote: > >> Roger wrote: > >> > >>> I always heard I should start a secondary account on my MacBook (Snow > >>> Leopard) for daily use. So I made an account for myself and use it for > >>> everything. > >> > >> You were ill advised. Most single users require only a single _admin_ > >> account to operate their Macs. > > > > I disagree. The concept of least privileges is a good one, no matter > > what your OS. Running as a limited user minimizes the damage that > > can be done if you, for example, inadvertently allow a trojan into > > your account. It's like the difference between having a fire contained > > to one room of your house or having the whole house go. We've taken > > it a step further by creating an office account separate from our run > > of the mill user accounts. The office account is for doing sensitive > > things like taxes and banking. No casual browsing, etc. > > > >>> But recently I found if I log in to my original admin > >>> account, I don't have "access" to my folders in my secondary account. > >>> I've tried get info, unlocking, etc., but it still says "you have no > >>> access." I also repaired permissions. (The folders in my secondary > >>> account have a little round, red symbol with what looks like a white > >>> dash or minus sign.) How did this happen? Is it likely to cause any > >>> problems? > >> > >> Sounds like it already has. One solution is to e-mail essential > >> documents to yourself and then get the e-mail in the Admin account. Or > >> just dump the other account, but save the home folder and if you cannot > >> then access it from your admin account, go into your Mac via FW Target > >> Disk Mode and move files where you want them. You may still have to > >> change ownership on some of those files. > > > > Move things through /Users/Shared. > > Completely agree with this guy. Just use the drop box folder to drop > files to the admin account or vice versa or whatever. That's the way I have transferred files between user accounts in the past. Be prepared for the occasional permissions issue due to things you copy into the /Users/Shared folder having restrictive permissions for other user accounts. I'm still curious as to why the OP feels he needs to log into the admin account to begin with, considering most everything one needs to do as administrator can be done from a standard user account. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Paul Sture on 13 Jun 2010 11:24
In article <barmar-12A56B.01372213062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <roger-E3E211.21392612062010(a)freenews.netfront.net>, > Roger <roger(a)roger.net> wrote: > > > I always heard I should start a secondary account on my MacBook (Snow > > Leopard) for daily use. So I made an account for myself and use it for > > everything. But recently I found if I log in to my original admin > > account, I don't have "access" to my folders in my secondary account. > > I've tried get info, unlocking, etc., but it still says "you have no > > access." I also repaired permissions. (The folders in my secondary > > account have a little round, red symbol with what looks like a white > > dash or minus sign.) How did this happen? Is it likely to cause any > > problems? > > That's normal. By default, the only folder that can be accessed by > other accounts is ~/Public. Even admin accounts can't normally override > this restriction. (It's possible to get around it from Terminal using > sudo.) > > When I want to copy files to my admin account, I copy it first to my > Public folder, switch to the admin account, and then open my Public > folder (since this is a pretty common thing, I've put an alias to it in > admin's Dock). I often put stuff on an external disk as an intermediate step. For complete directories I'll put an archive of the directory on the external disk then copy and unpack it using the other account. -- Paul Sture |