From: |-|ercules on 10 Jun 2010 01:29 "Tim Little" <tim(a)little-possums.net> wrote > On 2010-06-10, |-|ercules <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> I don't equate those statements, I merely substitute "all" with >> "infinite amount of". > > Incorrectly so. > > No sequence in the list has all its digits in common with the > antidiagonal. There may be some sequences in the list that have an > infinite amount of digits in common with the antidiagonal. For any > finite n there may also be sequences that agree to n places. > > None of these descriptions are substitutable for each other. > > > More mathematically, let A be the antidiagonal and L be the list. > > True: "For all n in N, there exists S in L such that S matches A to n > places". > > False: "There exists S in L such that for all n in N, S matches A to n > places". > > The former statement is a formalisation of "any finite number of > places" and the latter formalises "infinite amount of places". > > You are treating the two statements as equivalent, which is why some > people are saying you have quantifier dyslexia. They differ only in > the ordering of the quantifiers. > > >> Given that, do you still maintain you cannot parse this question? > > The question can be parsed, but it includes a counterfactual premise > and so is ill-posed. > > You seem to like analogies, so here is one: Your repetition of your > ill-posed question is a mathematical equivalent of saying > "Is the elephant in your refrigerator green or yellow? STOP DODGING > THE QUESTION AND ANSWER GREEN OR YELLOW!" > when the truth is simply that there is no such elephant and so any > question of its colour is meaningless. > > Likewise your substitution of different terms as if they were > equivalent renders a YES/NO answer to your question meaningless. They > are not equivalent, and if you want a meaningful answer you need to > ask a meaningful question. > > > - Tim I have little time for you as you keep snipping the points you refute then repeating your exact same error. Herc
From: Tim Little on 10 Jun 2010 02:05 On 2010-06-10, |-|ercules <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have little time for you as you keep snipping the points you > refute then repeating your exact same error. I'm not surprised that you have little time for me. By interacting with me you run the risk of having to admit your errors to yourself, and that would be abhorrent to you. - Tim
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 10 Jun 2010 07:24 Tim Little <tim(a)little-possums.net> writes: > On 2010-06-10, |-|ercules <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> I have little time for you as you keep snipping the points you >> refute then repeating your exact same error. > > I'm not surprised that you have little time for me. By interacting > with me you run the risk of having to admit your errors to yourself, > and that would be abhorrent to you. Oh, please. This is a man who thinks that he's Truman, Adam, and maybe God. He thinks that he has special psychic powers, that some poor woman who is frightened by him is his perfect mate, that names indicate essence and that he is being tortured by sonic devices. No matter how perfect your argument, you won't force a person like this to admit that he's mistaken. -- Jesse F. Hughes "To your limited perspective it looks like nothing is happening, while already I have more impact on the math world with some posts here or on my blog than just about any other human being on the planet." JSH
From: |-|ercules on 11 Jun 2010 22:35 "Jesse F. Hughes" <jesse(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote > Tim Little <tim(a)little-possums.net> writes: > >> On 2010-06-10, |-|ercules <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> I have little time for you as you keep snipping the points you >>> refute then repeating your exact same error. >> >> I'm not surprised that you have little time for me. By interacting >> with me you run the risk of having to admit your errors to yourself, >> and that would be abhorrent to you. > > Oh, please. > > This is a man who thinks that he's Truman, Adam, and maybe God. He > thinks that he has special psychic powers, that some poor woman who is > frightened by him is his perfect mate, that names indicate essence and > that he is being tortured by sonic devices. > > No matter how perfect your argument, you won't force a person like this > to admit that he's mistaken. > Being Adam is a longshot, but all the other claims fall into place given that, so essentially you are dismissing Adam and Eve could ever evolve at some point, unsubstantiated. Anyway a $50,000 prize skeptic company looks like they're going to give me a shot, so stay tuned, the mass ignorance won't last much longer. Herc
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 11 Jun 2010 23:17
"|-|ercules" <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> writes: > "Jesse F. Hughes" <jesse(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote >> Tim Little <tim(a)little-possums.net> writes: >> >>> On 2010-06-10, |-|ercules <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> I have little time for you as you keep snipping the points you >>>> refute then repeating your exact same error. >>> >>> I'm not surprised that you have little time for me. By interacting >>> with me you run the risk of having to admit your errors to >>> yourself, and that would be abhorrent to you. >> Oh, please. >> >> This is a man who thinks that he's Truman, Adam, and maybe God. He >> thinks that he has special psychic powers, that some poor woman who >> is frightened by him is his perfect mate, that names indicate >> essence and that he is being tortured by sonic devices. >> >> No matter how perfect your argument, you won't force a person like >> this to admit that he's mistaken. >> > > Being Adam is a longshot, but all the other claims fall into place > given that, so essentially you are dismissing Adam and Eve could ever > evolve at some point, unsubstantiated. Er, right. That's what I'm dismissing. > Anyway a $50,000 prize skeptic company looks like they're going to > give me a shot, so stay tuned, the mass ignorance won't last much > longer. Well, you can tell them that you picked this year's Stanley Cup winner, when there were eight teams in contention. That's probably not worth $50,000, but at least a buck or two. -- Jesse F. Hughes | "There's no other star but one star | and you want it to make light, | but it's not making light." | -- A blues tune by Quincy P. Hughes |