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From: rhyde on 23 Feb 2007 19:26 > > It could easily be argued that if an "assembly language > programmer(tm)" uses *more* lines of equates than LOC then there is > something _wrong_ with his development environment. That would be a difficult argument to make. Consider the windows.inc header file that is commonly used by MASM32 programmers. It's tens of thousands of lines long. Most programs that include it aren't as big as the header file itself. And that really has nothing to do with the "development environment" and everything to do with the vast number of equates needed by Windows. RosAsm is no different. It's "equates.equ" file is quite long as well. The difference is that RosAsm uses specialized code to handle those equates. If you, as a paltry user, try to create your own equates file that size, it *will* crash RosAsm for most typical RosAsm applications out there. Go ahead, try it yourself. It only takes about 30 minutes to edit equates.equ and turn it into a syntactically compatible source file for RosAsm to process -- at least up to the point RosAsm crashes on it. It's really sad that RosAsm needs special code to handle equates like this -- that the user cannot make such an equates list themselves. *THAT* tells me there's something wrong with the development environment. Rene can try and deflect the bad news all he wants by claiming that "RosAsm doesn't compile newspapers" (whatever the heck that means), but the bottom line is that no other assembler available has problems like this. Cheers, Randy Hyde
From: //o//annabee on 23 Feb 2007 22:07 På Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:53:42 -0000, skrev Evenbit <nbaker2328(a)charter.net>: > Hey Wannabee - send me the Nasm source for "bliss" to this address: > evenbitnb at yahoo dot com > > Nathan. I am not at home at the moment. I try to remember to send you it when I get back, sunday or monday.
From: Betov on 24 Feb 2007 02:50 "rhyde(a)cs.ucr.edu" <rhyde(a)cs.ucr.edu> �crivait news:1172276776.826039.168810(a)z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > It's "equates.equ" file is quite long as well. No, clown. It is not "quite long as well". It is quite longer: 63.763 Equates collected, up today. Equates that the programmer can use for free, without any care of it, without any overhead, and at a speed that would push any Assembler around on its knees, including the other fast one: FASM. :) Betov. < http://rosasm.org >
From: rhyde on 24 Feb 2007 10:22 On Feb 23, 11:50 pm, Betov <b...(a)free.fr> wrote: > "r...(a)cs.ucr.edu" <r...(a)cs.ucr.edu> écrivaitnews:1172276776.826039.168810(a)z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > > > It's "equates.equ" file is quite long as well. > > No, clown. It is not "quite long as well". It is quite > longer: 63.763 Equates collected, up today. Equates that > the programmer can use for free, without any care of it, > without any overhead, and at a speed that would push any > Assembler around on its knees, including the other fast > one: FASM. Now, why can't the user create their own "equates file" containing 63,763 different equates and compile small test programs without having RosAsm crash? It's wonderful that you preprocess these common equates for the user (particular as RosAsm would crash if they tried to include these equates directly in their source files). That does not excuse the fact that your assembler crashes if the user attempts to do the same thing themselves. No other assembler has this problem. Cheers, Randy Hyde
From: Betov on 24 Feb 2007 11:25
"rhyde(a)cs.ucr.edu" <rhyde(a)cs.ucr.edu> �crivait news:1172330530.881219.223180(a)v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com: > On Feb 23, 11:50 pm, Betov <b...(a)free.fr> wrote: >> "r...(a)cs.ucr.edu" <r...(a)cs.ucr.edu> �crivaitnews:1172276776.826039.1688 > 10(a)z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: >> >> > It's "equates.equ" file is quite long as well. >> >> No, clown. It is not "quite long as well". It is quite >> longer: 63.763 Equates collected, up today. Equates that >> the programmer can use for free, without any care of it, >> without any overhead, and at a speed that would push any >> Assembler around on its knees, including the other fast >> one: FASM. > > Now, why can't the user create their own "equates file" containing > 63,763 different equates and compile small test programs without > having RosAsm crash? Because the real artists hate perfection, which can only be found out with perfect nerds, clown. :) Betov. < http://rosasm.org > |