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From: BURT on 6 Jul 2010 21:57 On Jul 6, 7:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 5, 8:55 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html > > > 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our > > solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion > > is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed > > outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule > > out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right > > now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the > > clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.' > > > The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe, or the > > local Universe we exist in, is a jet stream. > > It is so nice to see mpc relegated to discussions with loons, > including himself. It probably keeps Mike just under the psychosis > breaking point to just be able to splutter and foam, and it confines > the noise to a narrow corner of the newsgroup. Why is everything redshifted in every direction we care to look? Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 6 Jul 2010 22:51 On Jul 6, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 6, 7:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:55 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html > > > > 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our > > > solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion > > > is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed > > > outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule > > > out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right > > > now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the > > > clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.' > > > > The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe, or the > > > local Universe we exist in, is a jet stream. > > > It is so nice to see mpc relegated to discussions with loons, > > including himself. It probably keeps Mike just under the psychosis > > breaking point to just be able to splutter and foam, and it confines > > the noise to a narrow corner of the newsgroup. > > Why is everything redshifted in every direction we care to look? > > Mitch Raemsch Because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet stream where matter is moving directionally and outward until it 'goes over the waterfall' and winds up back at the Universe 'disk' (i.e. Rindler Horizon): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics The following image of a black hole is analogous to the 'Universe': http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg
From: BURT on 6 Jul 2010 22:53 On Jul 6, 7:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 6, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 5, 8:55 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html > > > > > 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our > > > > solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion > > > > is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed > > > > outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule > > > > out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right > > > > now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the > > > > clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.' > > > > > The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe, or the > > > > local Universe we exist in, is a jet stream. > > > > It is so nice to see mpc relegated to discussions with loons, > > > including himself. It probably keeps Mike just under the psychosis > > > breaking point to just be able to splutter and foam, and it confines > > > the noise to a narrow corner of the newsgroup. > > > Why is everything redshifted in every direction we care to look? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet > stream where matter is moving directionally and outward until it 'goes > over the waterfall' and winds up back at the Universe 'disk' (i.e. > Rindler Horizon): > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics > > The following image of a black hole is analogous to the 'Universe': > > http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - A jet stream wouldn't have any shift at all because everything would be moving with it in the same direction. This is not what we see at all. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 6 Jul 2010 22:58 On Jul 6, 10:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 6, 7:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 6, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 6, 7:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:55 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html > > > > > > 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our > > > > > solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion > > > > > is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed > > > > > outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule > > > > > out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right > > > > > now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the > > > > > clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.' > > > > > > The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe, or the > > > > > local Universe we exist in, is a jet stream. > > > > > It is so nice to see mpc relegated to discussions with loons, > > > > including himself. It probably keeps Mike just under the psychosis > > > > breaking point to just be able to splutter and foam, and it confines > > > > the noise to a narrow corner of the newsgroup. > > > > Why is everything redshifted in every direction we care to look? > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet > > stream where matter is moving directionally and outward until it 'goes > > over the waterfall' and winds up back at the Universe 'disk' (i.e. > > Rindler Horizon): > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics > > > The following image of a black hole is analogous to the 'Universe': > > >http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > A jet stream wouldn't have any shift at all because everything would > be moving with it in the same direction. This is not what we see at > all. > > Mitch Raemsch The jet stream is not just moving, it is moving outward. The following is an image of a jet stream: http://www.vcharkarn.com/uploads/19/19710.jpg
From: BURT on 6 Jul 2010 23:04
On Jul 6, 7:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 6, 10:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 6, 9:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 5, 8:55 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > 'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html > > > > > > > 'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our > > > > > > solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion > > > > > > is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed > > > > > > outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule > > > > > > out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right > > > > > > now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the > > > > > > clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.' > > > > > > > The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe, or the > > > > > > local Universe we exist in, is a jet stream. > > > > > > It is so nice to see mpc relegated to discussions with loons, > > > > > including himself. It probably keeps Mike just under the psychosis > > > > > breaking point to just be able to splutter and foam, and it confines > > > > > the noise to a narrow corner of the newsgroup. > > > > > Why is everything redshifted in every direction we care to look? > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet > > > stream where matter is moving directionally and outward until it 'goes > > > over the waterfall' and winds up back at the Universe 'disk' (i.e. > > > Rindler Horizon): > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics > > > > The following image of a black hole is analogous to the 'Universe': > > > >http://structureofentropy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blackhole.jpg-Hidequoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > A jet stream wouldn't have any shift at all because everything would > > be moving with it in the same direction. This is not what we see at > > all. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > The jet stream is not just moving, it is moving outward. The following > is an image of a jet stream: > > http://www.vcharkarn.com/uploads/19/19710.jpg- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You should let people know that it is radial in nature and has a beginning center. I don't hardly ever follow links but the image you provided helped. A river or stream is linear not radial. Mitch Raemsch |