From: Gregor Kofler on
Am 2010-07-02 10:28, Kenneth Tilton meinte:

[whining snipped]

Pathetic.


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From: Kenneth Tilton on
Gregor Kofler wrote:
> Am 2010-07-02 10:28, Kenneth Tilton meinte:
>
> [whining snipped]
>
> Pathetic.
>
>

You yobbos really can't stand it when someone stands up to you.

Face it, you are finished, your hand-crafted html skills are obsolete.
Learn qooxdoo or Dojo fast, the workd is passing you by.

hth, kt

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From: Kenneth Tilton on
Peder O. Klingenberg wrote:
> Kenneth Tilton <kentilton(a)gmail.com> writes:
>
>> It seems quite fast to me, and the only people who say it is slow also
>> turn out to be library haters whose reports cannot be
>> reproduced.
>
> I'm reading this in comp.lang.lisp, and have no opinion on js libraries,
> or indeed js at all. I tried your site the other day, and found it
> painfully slow to load. This was at work, where we have a 100Mbit pipe
> to the relevant transit provider, but I'm located in Europe, so the
> latency might be a bit worse than in NYC.

A bit worse than in NYC would be 5s instead of the 4s I get.

>
> I didn't time it, but I managed to switch to another virtual desktop,
> read a mail, and switch back before the page rendered.

What's your speakeasy.net timing to DC?

Is that a 32-bit computer? Tho my old XP does fine.

> It popped up a
> firebug console with lots of scary-looking messages that I ignored.

You did the right thing.

> Typing was bearable, but only just, there was a quite noticable lag
> before anything rendered.

I see none, no matter how fast I type. On any computer or browser except
Conquerer and Opera (but ISTR the latter not doing well with those
logging messages I left behind.

> I sometimes had trouble editing text I wrote,
> and I couln't type < or > at all. I clicked the "solved" button
> prematurely, and got an error message telling me to do more work, but I
> was unable to return to editing the text.

Oh, I thought I fixed that. Maybe it is in the next release.

>
> This was on my normal work PC, an old Ubuntu install, 64 bit Firefox
> 3.0.something.
>
> I tried at home now to see if the slowness was reproducible. "At home"
> means MacOSX, Firefox 3.6.4, 25Mbit net connection. The slowness was
> not reproducible here, because the page failed to render at all. The
> firebug panel appeared, this time without scary messages, but the rest
> of the page was a uniform, boring gray.

The whole application went down tools. I restarted a couple of hours agao.

>
> I know cells is cool and all, but I wasn't exactly blown away by this
> demo, sorry.

You were not demoing Cells.

kt

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"The best Algebra tutorial program I have seen... in a class by itself."
Macworld
From: Gildas on
On 2 juil, 18:55, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the well-meant report.
You're welcome.

> Thanks again for the report, but to anyone out there, please relax on
> the bug reports.
Ok, I won't report bugs anymore.

Nevertheless, you should maybe warning the user that if he presses a
key more than 10 seconds, he may inadvertently do a DoS.
From: Peder O. Klingenberg on
Kenneth Tilton <kentilton(a)gmail.com> writes:

> What's your speakeasy.net timing to DC?

From home: 9/4 Mbit down/up. I didn't see anywhere on speakeasy.net to
measure latency, but I know from experience that rtt to the US east
coast is usually in the 150-200 ms range.

> Is that a 32-bit computer? Tho my old XP does fine.

I haven't used a 32-bit computer for years. 64-bit Ubuntu at work,
64-bit OSX at home. Though FF on the mac is a 32 bit application.

>> I sometimes had trouble editing text I wrote,
>> and I couln't type < or > at all. I clicked the "solved" button
>> prematurely, and got an error message telling me to do more work, but I
>> was unable to return to editing the text.
>
> Oh, I thought I fixed that. Maybe it is in the next release.

This was a few days ago, as I said. Maybe it was fixed in the
meantime. On second thought, I was a bit imprecise. I think I may have
been able to edit the text, but not to advance to the next step in the
process.

> The whole application went down tools. I restarted a couple of hours agao.

Right. It was back for a moment, but none of the choices on the
freestyle tab did anything, so I never got to editing anything. A
page reload gave me infinite "waiting for teamalgebra.com", and further
reloads gave me server resets or the rather boring empty gray page.

> You were not demoing Cells.

I thought this was about hooking cells up to the js gui stuff? As I
have zero interest in the webgui stuff, I was hoping to get a glimpse of
how cells could drive an application efficiently.

....Peder...
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