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From: Celtic Boar on 29 May 2005 20:13 Please take a look at the attached link. I am still trying to get the hang of this Unsharp Mask Thing. Are these oversharpened. Canon 20D - Raw - 75-300 IS Zoom Thanks. http://spaces.msn.com/members/fleetingglimpse/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaHandler=TWljcm9zb2Z0LlNwYWNlcy5XZWIuUGFydHMuUGhvdG9BbGJ1bS5GdWxsTW9kZUNvbnRyb2xsZXI%24&_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaFolderID=cns!1pioagCJB9TmXNBFRp_AlULA!741&_c=PhotoAlbum ~Rikk website: www.fleetingglimpse.com blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/fleetingglmpse/
From: Paul Furman on 29 May 2005 21:06 Celtic Boar wrote: > Please take a look at the attached link. I am still trying to get the hang > of this Unsharp Mask Thing. Are these oversharpened. I don't think so. Oversharpened pics show halos around edges, emphasized noise and a sort of flattened washed, out electric haze look. PS If you sharpened for print size then reduced for web, we won't see that at all. It is size dependent. > > Canon 20D - Raw - 75-300 IS Zoom > > Thanks. > > http://spaces.msn.com/members/fleetingglimpse/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaHandler=TWljcm9zb2Z0LlNwYWNlcy5XZWIuUGFydHMuUGhvdG9BbGJ1bS5GdWxsTW9kZUNvbnRyb2xsZXI%24&_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaFolderID=cns!1pioagCJB9TmXNBFRp_AlULA!741&_c=PhotoAlbum > > ~Rikk > > website: www.fleetingglimpse.com > blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/fleetingglmpse/ > > -- Paul Furman http://www.edgehill.net/1 san francisco native plants
From: Celtic Boar on 29 May 2005 22:38 No, I sharpened them last step. I am a film photog learning the digital game. When I compare the RAW files saved as TIFF to my processed files, the processed files look unreal. Too sharp. Maybe I am seeing it backwards and the Raw is too soft. Thanks.
From: Paul Furman on 29 May 2005 23:32 Celtic Boar wrote: > No, I sharpened them last step. > > I am a film photog learning the digital game. When I compare the RAW files > saved as TIFF to my processed files, the processed files look unreal. Too > sharp. Maybe I am seeing it backwards and the Raw is too soft. RAW files from a digital camera are indeed very soft and low contrast. I don't think anybody shoots digital without some sharpening. The contrast almost certainly needs to be increased too but most software will do that to some sort of default without even asking. Many DSLRs shoot jpegs that are muddy looking compared to point & shoot digitals so there is room to adjust with software & the pictures are not already blown out. Set the defaults in your raw converter to suit typical shots to give them punch then just relax the sharpening for high ISO noisy exceptions & relax contrast for high contrast pictures. You won't see a lot of the "oversharpening" when printed. On a computer you can zoom in & obsess on every detail but it'll be softer in a print. PS I don't know how this all compares to film & I'm fairly new to all this myself. -- Paul Furman http://www.edgehill.net/1 san francisco native plants
From: C Wright on 30 May 2005 00:16
On 5/29/05 7:13 PM, in article PUsme.17445$cP2.6248(a)fe06.lga, "Celtic Boar" <extraneous(a)charter.net> wrote: > Please take a look at the attached link. I am still trying to get the hang > of this Unsharp Mask Thing. Are these oversharpened. > > Canon 20D - Raw - 75-300 IS Zoom > > Thanks. > > http://spaces.msn.com/members/fleetingglimpse/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c11_PhotoAlb > um_spaHandler=TWljcm9zb2Z0LlNwYWNlcy5XZWIuUGFydHMuUGhvdG9BbGJ1bS5GdWxsTW9kZUNv > bnRyb2xsZXI%24&_c11_PhotoAlbum_spaFolderID=cns!1pioagCJB9TmXNBFRp_AlULA!741&_c > =PhotoAlbum > > ~Rikk > > website: www.fleetingglimpse.com > blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/fleetingglmpse/ > > Your images do not look over sharpened to me. Also, when images are printed on an inkjet they will almost always look softer than they do on your monitor. Chuck |