From: PD on
On May 2, 7:33 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> On May 2, 1:16 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 2, 2:54 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...(a)gmail.com wrote:
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> > > On May 2, 5:42 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On May 1, 3:11 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...(a)gmail.com wrote:
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> > > > > On May 1, 8:59 am, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Apr 24, 12:24 am, mitch.nicolas.raem...(a)gmail.com wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Apr 20, 1:26 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Apr 19, 9:09 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...(a)gmail.com wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > Protons and electrons are attractive and at the same time they must be
> > > > > > > > > forced together. This is an oxymoron. Also interesting is when forced
> > > > > > > > > together they become a neutron and this is due to one of the protons
> > > > > > > > > quarks being transmuted by the electron. An understanding of how a
> > > > > > > > > lepton can change a sub hadron should be forthcoming.
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> > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
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> > > > > > > > Mitch, Halley's comet is attracted to the sun by the force of gravity.
> > > > > > > > Yet, every 76 years or so, it passes its closest point to the sun
> > > > > > > > (perihelion) and then gets further away from the sun. It does this
> > > > > > > > without gravity turning into a repulsive force to push the comet away.
> > > > > > > > It has repeated this behavior in documented fashion for thousands of
> > > > > > > > years. It would be useful for you to understand how this can happen
> > > > > > > > without being any oxymoron.
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> > > > > > > > PD
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> > > > > > > The only answer is that atomic shells hold electrons and protons at
> > > > > > > bay. Otherwise their attraction would bring them together. But what
> > > > > > > are shells made of?
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> > > > > > Atomic shells hold Halley's comet at bay from the sun?
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> > > > > > > Demicritus said atoms are little hard things.
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> > > > > Non sequiter
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> > > > You probably mean "non sequitur".
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> > > > But actually, it DOES follow.
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> > > > You apparently would *like* to say that the only thing that keeps
> > > > electrons from falling into protons is material atomic shells.
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> > > > But the question you haven't asked yourself yet is why anything is
> > > > needed at all. And as another example of a case where nothing is
> > > > needed at all, I mentioned Halley's comet, which is gravitationally
> > > > *attracted* to the Sun (not repelled) and yet both approaches and
> > > > recedes from the Sun every seven decades, without needing anything to
> > > > keep it from falling in.
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> > > > So when you understand how something can behave that way, even though
> > > > it is under the influence of a purely attractive force, and without
> > > > anything holding it out, then you might -- just might -- see that the
> > > > material atomic shells you imagine are necessary in the atom are not
> > > > necessary at all.
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> > > An electron transmutes a quark.
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> > No, it doesn't. A W boson does.
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> > > How can a lepton transmute a baryon?
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> Combining an electron with a proton into a neutron requires force. But
> they are supposed to be electrically attractive.

A neutron weighs more than a proton plus an electron. So being
electrically attracted doesn't solve that problem.

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> Non sequitur.

From: Autymn D. C. on
On May 6, 12:07 pm, Enes <pies_na_teo...(a)gazeta.pl> wrote:
> > You familiar with the elèctròn's elèctronic dipole moment?
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> I don,t know what do you realy want.
> Please ask me again (without familiar ;), can you ?

Are you aware of its measurement and how that constrains your new
leptòn?

> Btw:
> +/- particle gives us many possibilities. For instance there was 2
> electropositron helium models. The Swedish experiment confirm only one
> of them.

how?