Another Big Hubble Error for Space Expantion
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From: guskz on 30 May 2010 13:23 Hubble omitted the Relativistic Aberration of Light, this gives an incorrect measurement of the *brightness* of a supernova. Not from supernovas, but extreme aberration causes light from behind an observer to appear in front, likewise all of space contracts (NOT expands) to a single point. This can also falsify CMBR data. The more distant supernovas have a DOUBLE effect, not only is their recession velocity greater (#1), but the tinniest deviation of their light beam projections has a larger impact on their observed brightness(#2). I haven't done it, I'd prefer to let someone else do the math, and then give him credibility to both his present & future remarks.
From: Sam Wormley on 30 May 2010 13:46 On 5/30/10 12:23 PM, guskz(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Relativistic Aberration of Light http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_aberration
From: G. L. Bradford on 30 May 2010 17:39 <guskz(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2917c093-325b-4a38-82de-2671f04bf9ae(a)a27g2000prj.googlegroups.com... > Hubble omitted the Relativistic Aberration of Light, this gives an > incorrect measurement of the *brightness* of a supernova. > > Not from supernovas, but extreme aberration causes light from behind > an observer to appear in front, likewise all of space contracts (NOT > expands) to a single point. This can also falsify CMBR data. > > The more distant supernovas have a DOUBLE effect, not only is their > recession velocity greater (#1), but the tinniest deviation of their > light beam projections has a larger impact on their observed > brightness(#2). > > I haven't done it, I'd prefer to let someone else do the math, and > then give him credibility to both his present & future remarks. > =================== The "single point," regarding contracting to a single point, is the local universe or frame of the observer or traveler. There is no center point to infinite Universe, thus every point, including the observer and traveler, is the center point of the Universe. The "single point" is not forward of center, not backward of center, nor to any flank of center. Position, velocity, space and time (including histories (including historionic point -- light time point -- coordinate systems)) are relative, not absolute. Not only does the observer measure the speed of light locally -- fore, aft, flanks, all angles into center point -- to be a constant of c, but so does the traveler exactly the same (fore, aft, flanks, all angles into center point). Too many physicists and astronomers will tell you -- in a very Orwellian way of telling in one breath, denying in the next -- that positioning, velocity, space and time are really universal absolutes, thus c is a definitive PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE travelers can travel to "in the direction of motion (direction of travel)" thus closing up the universe forward, to the fore, and therefore -- all at once -- arriving backward back home at exactly the same time they arrive at an infinity of other forward destinations (it's not nice to have a black hole the only thing in the universe behind you (all there is and immediately behind you)). Of course the reality is that travelers travel to somewhere else and never come closer than the universal constant of c... to the universal constant of c. A rearward observer who measures the speed of light to be c, positions an [observed] traveler somewhere in SPACE between himself and the [unobserved] real traveler, thus closer to himself in SPACE than the real traveler is, thus observing him to be doing a relative velocity less than his actual relative velocity. That same observer will observe that same [observed] traveler to be retarding in TIME relative to himself. He will not be observing that same [observed] traveler to also be retarding in TIME -- to the same degree -- relative to the [unobserved] real traveler going away. The forward observer, the same as the rearward observer, who measures the speed of light to be c, positions an [observed] traveler somewhere in SPACE between himself and the [unobserved] real traveler, thus closer to himself in SPACE than the real traveler is, thus observing him to be doing a relative velocity less than his actual relative velocity. That same observer will observe that same [observed] traveler to be retarded in TIME relative to himself, though he will be observing the [observed] traveler to be rapidly closing that gap by being speeded up in TIME. He will not be observing that same [observed] traveler to also be retarded in TIME -- to the same degree -- relative to the [unobserved] real traveler oncoming. The [observed] traveler is also rapidly closing the TIME gap, the history gap, with the [unobserved] real traveler. The speeding traveler himself, the same as the forward and rearward observers, who also measures the speed of light to be c, positions both observers somewhere in SPACE between himself and the [unobserved] real observers, thus closer to himself in SPACE than the real observers are, thus the entire nearer light-time universe OF HISTORIES now globally observed by him to be more closed up -- to far more closed up -- to him in SPACE than it was. It is as if he is positioned at the dead center of time, the dead center OF HISTORIES, the universe forward rapidly ascending in time regarding one set of histories "in the direction of motion (direction of travel)," while the universe behind rapidly descends in time regarding another set of histories in the opposed direction. Centered in a nearer light time universe apparently globally and largely closed up to him, the light of it has no difficulty whatsoever globally closing with him -- globally closing with his local universe -- at the universal constant of c. Just as the rearward observer has him (or rather the [observed] traveler) retarding away in TIME deeper into the reaches of the [observed] non-local universe OF HISTORIES, so, in turn, he has his departure point and all rearward observers (the [observed] rearward observers, that is) retarding away from him in TIME deeper into the reaches of that same [observed] non-local universe OF HISTORIES. The traveler can only decelerate in velocity relatively speaking, thus he, or she, or it, decelerates in velocity into an apparently globally expanding nearer universe external (non-local) to his own local universe frame. GLB ===========================
From: Sue... on 30 May 2010 18:04 On May 30, 1:23 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Hubble omitted the Relativistic Aberration of Light, this gives an > incorrect measurement of the *brightness* of a supernova. > > Not from supernovas, but extreme aberration causes light from behind > an observer to appear in front, likewise all of space contracts (NOT > expands) to a single point. This can also falsify CMBR data. > > The more distant supernovas have a DOUBLE effect, not only is their > recession velocity greater (#1), but the tinniest deviation of their > light beam projections has a larger impact on their observed > brightness(#2). =================== > > I haven't done it, I'd prefer to let someone else do the math, and > then give him credibility to both his present & future remarks. I ran one of the these for a few monthis so I can do the maths for you. http://www.gouverneurmuseum.org/Features/theater/projector.html But you have to tell us where the "light beam projectors" are located on a supernova. Sue...
From: Sam Wormley on 30 May 2010 19:05
On 5/30/10 4:39 PM, G. L. Bradford wrote: > The traveler can only decelerate in velocity relatively speaking, thus > he, or she, or it, decelerates in velocity into an apparently globally > expanding nearer universe external (non-local) to his own local universe > frame. ILLUCID Hidden is the law of inertia is that fact the whether an object is in motion or not depends strictly on the point of view of the observer. No Center http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html |