Anti matter and matter cannot be kept together
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From: Raymond Yohros on 5 Jul 2010 22:52 On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: > On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 5:31 am, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 7/5/2010 8:07 AM, BURT wrote: > > >>>>> How does the anti matter get into the trap without interacting with > >>>>> the matter making up the trap? > > >>> - The antiprotons are created in high vacuum, > > >>> How are they created there? How high is the vacuum? > > >> A particle accelerator creates them during collision events. > > >> The vacuum is very complete. It's the equivalent of the vacuum of space > > > You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are > > not. So which one is it? > > Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle > accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the > particles they are colliding together, from the background. > > Yousuf Khan and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way! otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that may not be safe. r.y
From: J. Clarke on 5 Jul 2010 23:04 On 7/5/2010 10:52 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: > On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: >> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 5, 5:31 am, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On 7/5/2010 8:07 AM, BURT wrote: >> >>>>>>> How does the anti matter get into the trap without interacting with >>>>>>> the matter making up the trap? >> >>>>> - The antiprotons are created in high vacuum, >> >>>>> How are they created there? How high is the vacuum? >> >>>> A particle accelerator creates them during collision events. >> >>>> The vacuum is very complete. It's the equivalent of the vacuum of space >> >>> You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are >>> not. So which one is it? >> >> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle >> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the >> particles they are colliding together, from the background. >> >> Yousuf Khan > > and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way! > > otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that > may not be safe. Why would they make a "big booooooommmmmm effect"? The amount of antimatter that a particle accelerator produces is minuscule.
From: Raymond Yohros on 5 Jul 2010 23:37 On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > On 7/5/2010 10:52 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote: > > >>> On Jul 5, 5:31 am, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>> On 7/5/2010 8:07 AM, BURT wrote: > > >>>>>>> How does the anti matter get into the trap without interacting with > >>>>>>> the matter making up the trap? > > >>>>> - The antiprotons are created in high vacuum, > > >>>>> How are they created there? How high is the vacuum? > > >>>> A particle accelerator creates them during collision events. > > >>>> The vacuum is very complete. It's the equivalent of the vacuum of space > > >>> You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are > >>> not. So which one is it? > > >> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle > >> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the > >> particles they are colliding together, from the background. > > >> Yousuf Khan > > > and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way! > > > otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that > > may not be safe. > > Why would they make a "big booooooommmmmm effect"? The amount of > antimatter that a particle accelerator produces is minuscule. > can you imagine any particle collition in something that is not a vacuum. what you think it could happen? r.y
From: J. Clarke on 6 Jul 2010 00:51 On 7/5/2010 11:37 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: > On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >> On 7/5/2010 10:52 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote: >> >>>>> On Jul 5, 5:31 am, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 7/5/2010 8:07 AM, BURT wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> How does the anti matter get into the trap without interacting with >>>>>>>>> the matter making up the trap? >> >>>>>>> - The antiprotons are created in high vacuum, >> >>>>>>> How are they created there? How high is the vacuum? >> >>>>>> A particle accelerator creates them during collision events. >> >>>>>> The vacuum is very complete. It's the equivalent of the vacuum of space >> >>>>> You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are >>>>> not. So which one is it? >> >>>> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle >>>> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the >>>> particles they are colliding together, from the background. >> >>>> Yousuf Khan >> >>> and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way! >> >>> otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that >>> may not be safe. >> >> Why would they make a "big booooooommmmmm effect"? The amount of >> antimatter that a particle accelerator produces is minuscule. >> > > can you imagine any particle collition in something > that is not a vacuum. what you think it could happen? Not much. Hint--"particle collisions" occur in the atmosphere every day at energy levels higher than any particle accelerator can achieve, with no "big booooommmmmm effect". Google "cosmic rays".
From: Yousuf Khan on 6 Jul 2010 01:30
On 7/6/2010 9:37 AM, Raymond Yohros wrote: > On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >> On 7/5/2010 10:52 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote: >>> On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote: >>>>> You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are >>>>> not. So which one is it? >> >>>> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle >>>> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the >>>> particles they are colliding together, from the background. >> >>>> Yousuf Khan >> >>> and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way! >> >>> otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that >>> may not be safe. >> >> Why would they make a "big booooooommmmmm effect"? The amount of >> antimatter that a particle accelerator produces is minuscule. >> > > can you imagine any particle collition in something > that is not a vacuum. what you think it could happen? Yeah, it'll be so big that it might heat your cup of coffee. All of the anti-matter that's being produced in particle accelerators right now is maybe a few thousand particles, compared to quintillions of particles in a room of air, it's nothing. Yousuf Khan |