From: Richard Steinfeld on
Howard Schwartz wrote:
> derek / nul <newsgroupspamtrap(a)sgrail.org> wrote in
> news:9foqa153usbiqe5t7kpd2q9vkavrhvob8i(a)4ax.com:
>
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:26:50 +0100, John Latter
>><jorolat(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Are there any freeware programs which can recover 'bad sectors'?
>>
>
> Funny: There ia a program called revive.exe that does this for floppy
> disks: salvages as much data as possible from bad sectors and moves
> the data. It uses multiple reads of the disk to optomize this. Do
> not see why such a program could not be written for a hard disk.
> (Revive is an old, freeware dos program).
>

Yup.
That's exactly the idea I meant in my post.


I wonder if it's possible to read the hard disk with Revive.exe at the
dos level, and pull the data off to another disk, like a floppy. I'm
thinking that the actual low-magnetic data would be a very small chunk
-- a cunk that could easily fit on a floppy.

Richard
From: Doc on
Marten Kemp <martendespamkemp(a)thisplanet-link.net> wrote in
news:tZnre.4636$pa3.4072(a)newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:

> Franklin wrote:
>
>> On Mon 13 Jun 2005 15:43:29, Marten Kemp wrote:
>> <news:lYgre.3331$eM6.3120(a)newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
>>
>>>>Can`t be done John. You could download `powermax` from the
>>>>maxtor site, make a boot disk and test the drive in DOS. This
>>>>will give you an indication of the condition of the drive. I`m
>>>>afraid bad sectors are gone for good. best wishes..J
>>>
>>>Note about powermax: unlike the drive test software from other
>>>manufacturers, powermax works on any drive, regardless of who
>>>made it.
>>>
>>>If you want to retrieve the data from bad sectors, I'm afraid
>>>that jon is correct -- they're gone forever. If, on the other
>>>hand, you want to delete the bad sectors powermax will remap
>>>good sectors to the addresses of the bad ones, giving you a
>>>"clean" drive that's very slightly smaller.
>>
>> Some people say that SpinRite can recover "semi-bad" sectors but I am
>> not so sure. And, worse still, it is rather expensive $$$ware.
>
> IIRC, SpinRite was okay at aggressive retries Back In The Old Days
> of MFM and RLL drives where the controller logic was separate from
> the drive. These days, I _think_ that IDE drives do the retries
> themselves and software is unlikely to do any better.
>
> Of course, YMMV. My experience with SpinRite was to optimize the
> interleave on MFM drives, so I definitely could be wrong.
>

Spinrite HAS "evolved" with the times. Version 6 now.

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From: David on
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:19:07 +0200, "Rudolf Gerhard Hýcherl"
<Rudi.Hoecherl(a)t-online.de> typed furiously:

>try a programm called llf.exe (low level format).You need a DOS-Start-Disk
>with this DOS-Program and after you do the job, windows called you a factory
>new HDD. Good luck.
>Greetings
>machinehead666
>
Back up your data first.

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From: Marten Kemp on
Doc wrote:

> Marten Kemp <martendespamkemp(a)thisplanet-link.net> wrote in
> news:tZnre.4636$pa3.4072(a)newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
>
>>Franklin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon 13 Jun 2005 15:43:29, Marten Kemp wrote:
>>><news:lYgre.3331$eM6.3120(a)newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
>>>
>>>>>Can`t be done John. You could download `powermax` from the
>>>>>maxtor site, make a boot disk and test the drive in DOS. This
>>>>>will give you an indication of the condition of the drive. I`m
>>>>>afraid bad sectors are gone for good. best wishes..J
>>>>
>>>>Note about powermax: unlike the drive test software from other
>>>>manufacturers, powermax works on any drive, regardless of who
>>>>made it.
>>>>
>>>>If you want to retrieve the data from bad sectors, I'm afraid
>>>>that jon is correct -- they're gone forever. If, on the other
>>>>hand, you want to delete the bad sectors powermax will remap
>>>>good sectors to the addresses of the bad ones, giving you a
>>>>"clean" drive that's very slightly smaller.
>>>
>>>Some people say that SpinRite can recover "semi-bad" sectors but I am
>>>not so sure. And, worse still, it is rather expensive $$$ware.
>>
>>IIRC, SpinRite was okay at aggressive retries Back In The Old Days
>>of MFM and RLL drives where the controller logic was separate from
>>the drive. These days, I _think_ that IDE drives do the retries
>>themselves and software is unlikely to do any better.
>>
>>Of course, YMMV. My experience with SpinRite was to optimize the
>>interleave on MFM drives, so I definitely could be wrong.
>>
> Spinrite HAS "evolved" with the times. Version 6 now.
>

Okay.

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From: Al Smith on
>>Some people say that SpinRite can recover "semi-bad" sectors but I am
>>>not so sure. And, worse still, it is rather expensive $$$ware.
>
>
> (OT)
> Is that still going? I last used it around 1994. It was brilliant then
> so I presume it is still as good or better.

I sometimes haunt the Gibson newsgroups, so I can say that Steve
Gibson upgraded spinrite last year. Everyone says it's the cat's
pajamas.
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