From: Salad on
David W. Fenton wrote:
> Lay <lightaiyee(a)gmail.com> wrote in
> news:b199ec66-5756-4060-8c5e-a3586451c76d(a)a6g2000pro.googlegroups.com
> :
>
>
>>On Jun 26, 7:03 am, "David W. Fenton"
>><XXXuse...(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>Lay <lightai...(a)gmail.com> wrote
>>>innews:27bb4b86-0bac-4d4a-b262-ecee97f76
>>
>>097(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.co
>>
>>>m:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am using Access 2003 mdb now. I plan to convert it to mde
>>>>file for security reasons. May I know if the creation of new
>>>>queries and modification of existing queries will be affected
>>>>in any way with mde files? Are there any restrictions?
>>>
>>>>I saw some problems about queries with mde files on the net, so
>>>>I got worried.
>>>
>>>Do you understand what an MDE is? I don't think you do, or you
>>>wouldn't be asking this question. I suggest you read up on it.
>>
>>Thank you for all your replies. Pardon my ignorance. I thought
>>once compiled, the file cannot be changed anymore and read-only.
>>Now, I know that is wrong. Thank you.
>
>
> Try reading the help file. Then ask questions based on having
> attempted to inform yourself.
>
> It's certainly OK not to understand the brief and pithy content of
> the help files.
>
> It's *not* OK to keep blithely asking people to explain it to you
> when you don't seem to have even tried to understand it on your own.
>
What side of the bed did David wake up on? The wrong side, it seems.

Why the anger?
From: Wayne on
On Jun 29, 6:41 am, Salad <sa...(a)oilandvinegar.com> wrote:

> Why the anger?

Hi Salad. You've been around this forum for more than 5 minutes. You
should know that's David's normal mode of communication. :-)
From: Bob Barrows on
Salad wrote:
> David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> Why the anger?

What anger? Maybe some justifiable impatience, but I fail to see anger.


From: David W. Fenton on
Salad <salad(a)oilandvinegar.com> wrote in
news:yKWdnTBCErmJlLTRnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com:

> David W. Fenton wrote:
>> Lay <lightaiyee(a)gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:b199ec66-5756-4060-8c5e-a3586451c76d(a)a6g2000pro.googlegroups.
>> com
>> :
>>
>>
>>>On Jun 26, 7:03 am, "David W. Fenton"
>>><XXXuse...(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Lay <lightai...(a)gmail.com> wrote
>>>>innews:27bb4b86-0bac-4d4a-b262-ecee97f76
>>>
>>>097(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.co
>>>
>>>>m:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am using Access 2003 mdb now. I plan to convert it to mde
>>>>>file for security reasons. May I know if the creation of new
>>>>>queries and modification of existing queries will be affected
>>>>>in any way with mde files? Are there any restrictions?
>>>>
>>>>>I saw some problems about queries with mde files on the net, so
>>>>>I got worried.
>>>>
>>>>Do you understand what an MDE is? I don't think you do, or you
>>>>wouldn't be asking this question. I suggest you read up on it.
>>>
>>>Thank you for all your replies. Pardon my ignorance. I thought
>>>once compiled, the file cannot be changed anymore and read-only.
>>>Now, I know that is wrong. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Try reading the help file. Then ask questions based on having
>> attempted to inform yourself.
>>
>> It's certainly OK not to understand the brief and pithy content
>> of the help files.
>>
>> It's *not* OK to keep blithely asking people to explain it to you
>> when you don't seem to have even tried to understand it on your
>> own.
>
> What side of the bed did David wake up on? The wrong side, it
> seems.
>
> Why the anger?

I am not angry. It felt to me like I was being asked to spoonfeed
the answer, and that annoys me.

I also think that anybody who uses MDEs but can't explain what they
are for is someone is not at what I'd call a competent level.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
From: Salad on
David W. Fenton wrote:

> Salad <salad(a)oilandvinegar.com> wrote in
> news:yKWdnTBCErmJlLTRnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com:
>
>
>>David W. Fenton wrote:
>>
>>>Lay <lightaiyee(a)gmail.com> wrote in
>>>news:b199ec66-5756-4060-8c5e-a3586451c76d(a)a6g2000pro.googlegroups.
>>>com
>>>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Jun 26, 7:03 am, "David W. Fenton"
>>>><XXXuse...(a)dfenton.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Lay <lightai...(a)gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>innews:27bb4b86-0bac-4d4a-b262-ecee97f76
>>>>
>>>>097(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.co
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>m:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am using Access 2003 mdb now. I plan to convert it to mde
>>>>>>file for security reasons. May I know if the creation of new
>>>>>>queries and modification of existing queries will be affected
>>>>>>in any way with mde files? Are there any restrictions?
>>>>>
>>>>>>I saw some problems about queries with mde files on the net, so
>>>>>>I got worried.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you understand what an MDE is? I don't think you do, or you
>>>>>wouldn't be asking this question. I suggest you read up on it.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you for all your replies. Pardon my ignorance. I thought
>>>>once compiled, the file cannot be changed anymore and read-only.
>>>>Now, I know that is wrong. Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>Try reading the help file. Then ask questions based on having
>>>attempted to inform yourself.
>>>
>>>It's certainly OK not to understand the brief and pithy content
>>>of the help files.
>>>
>>>It's *not* OK to keep blithely asking people to explain it to you
>>>when you don't seem to have even tried to understand it on your
>>>own.
>>
>>What side of the bed did David wake up on? The wrong side, it
>>seems.
>>
>>Why the anger?
>
>
> I am not angry. It felt to me like I was being asked to spoonfeed
> the answer, and that annoys me.
>
> I also think that anybody who uses MDEs but can't explain what they
> are for is someone is not at what I'd call a competent level.
>
I might have said..create a new mdb. Add a couple of tables with a
couple of records. Create a form with a wizard. Now convert to an mde.
Open the MDE. Can you modify the form? Can you modify the query?
Are you worried now?

Or one doesn't need to answer the question in the first place. It
isn't personal. The answer could have be more welcoming or not answered
at all. I haven't seen any other posts from Lay so the "keep blithely
asking people" line made me wonder what crossed your wires. Advice like
"Try reading the help file." isn't very helpful. A pointer to a topic
in the helpfile might be more useful.

To me, an annoying question like me would be "Help, I keep getting a
2617 error. How do I fix it?" As if we've all memorized the error
numbers that can be produced in Access.

But this is just my opinion.