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From: Bill on 28 May 2010 12:51 What's this: "authenticated rmgroup command", remove a group? If so, it begs the question why would they do that, as there's no liability regarding the contents of a public forum. Bill "Mike B" <mDotByerley(a)VerizonDottieNettie> wrote in message news:OFu%23t0m$KHA.4652(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Marshall Barton" <marshbarton(a)wowway.com> wrote in message > news:5fauv55i2an7g9davg27l7sj88tge2c48m(a)4ax.com... >> Dennis wrote: >>>Assuming that Microsoft does not listen to their users (surprise) and >>>they >>>do shut down this forum on June 1st, can anyone suggest other forums? >>> >>>This forum has been a GREAT source of information and it will be so sad >>>to >>>see Microsoft close it. >> >> >> You know, I don't think Microsoft can close down a >> newsgroup. They can take their servers out of the internet, >> but the newsgroups should continue to exist on many other >> news servers. I plan on continuing to use them just to see >> what happens (and put off the bleep web based forum thingie >> as long as I can). > > There has been some discussion in the VB groups about this. > If MS issues an authenticated rmgroup command and it is honored by others, > it will remove the MS heirarchies from those servers. > > Time will tell. > >> If you were connecting directly to the MS servers, then you >> would have to find another news server to connect to. That >> may or may not be a problem for some or many folks, but I >> have always connected to the news service available from my >> ISP (who contracts it out to giganews). >> >> The big question is how many folks will be bothered to do >> that instead of bowing to MS and switching to the web based >> junk. >> >> -- >> Marsh >> MVP [MS Access] > >
From: Marshall Barton on 28 May 2010 14:55 Mike B wrote: >"Marshall Barton" wrote >> Dennis wrote: >>>Assuming that Microsoft does not listen to their users (surprise) and they >>>do shut down this forum on June 1st, can anyone suggest other forums? >>> >>>This forum has been a GREAT source of information and it will be so sad to >>>see Microsoft close it. >> >> >> You know, I don't think Microsoft can close down a >> newsgroup. They can take their servers out of the internet, >> but the newsgroups should continue to exist on many other >> news servers. I plan on continuing to use them just to see >> what happens (and put off the bleep web based forum thingie >> as long as I can). > >There has been some discussion in the VB groups about this. >If MS issues an authenticated rmgroup command and it is honored by others, >it will remove the MS heirarchies from those servers. > >Time will tell. I was unaware of that capability and have no idea what an "authenticated" command is, but if MS can and does do that, I would think of it as them doing it out of spite. Whatever justification they make up for doing it, will, in my mind, be some legalistic mumbo jumbo and may turn me off to this entire exercise. OTOH, I feel the need of those less knowleddgable to get answers and the need to continue to pay forward for all the assistance I have received, so I don't really know what I will do in the future. -- Marsh MVP [MS Access]
From: Larry Linson on 28 May 2010 16:29 If your ISP no longer provides a news server, get one -- I'm using news.individual.net, operated by the Free University of Berlin -- solid, stable, and inexpensive (10 euros a year); there are also other for-fee, and many for-free servers (Eternal September is one free one that is often recommended). See you in comp.databases.ms-access... many MVPs and other knowledgeable developers answer questions there. Traffic there is lower than what it once was, but I expect it to pick up when Microsoft shuts down their support of these newsgroups. "social.answers.microsoft.com" is Microsoft's suggestion. Doesn't seem very appealing to me, judging from feedback I read about it. -- Larry Linson, Microsoft Office Access MVP Co-author: "Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions", published by Wiley Access newsgroup support is alive and well in USENET comp.databases.ms-access "Dennis" <Dennis(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CA1E4796-3CA8-4101-89A4-AF99E8B7A6ED(a)microsoft.com... > Hi, > > Assuming that Microsoft does not listen to their users (surprise) and they > do shut down this forum on June 1st, can anyone suggest other forums? > > This forum has been a GREAT source of information and it will be so sad to > see Microsoft close it. > > > -- > Dennis
From: Mike B on 28 May 2010 17:58 "Bill" <mlharding(a)jps.net> wrote in message news:4oqdnagfLZ4_aWLWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > What's this: "authenticated rmgroup command", > remove a group? If so, it begs the question why > would they do that, as there's no liability regarding > the contents of a public forum. There is a fair amount of opinion in the orphaned VB community that this might happen as an overall strategy for MS to utilize the forums equally from a marketing stature as with a source of help for users and developers. Beyond that I don't have any personal desire to speculate the future, but rather adopt a wait and see. I personally don't like the forum format, but if that is all there was then, well..... > Bill > > "Mike B" <mDotByerley(a)VerizonDottieNettie> wrote in message > news:OFu%23t0m$KHA.4652(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Marshall Barton" <marshbarton(a)wowway.com> wrote in message >> news:5fauv55i2an7g9davg27l7sj88tge2c48m(a)4ax.com... >>> Dennis wrote: >>>>Assuming that Microsoft does not listen to their users (surprise) and >>>>they >>>>do shut down this forum on June 1st, can anyone suggest other forums? >>>> >>>>This forum has been a GREAT source of information and it will be so sad >>>>to >>>>see Microsoft close it. >>> >>> >>> You know, I don't think Microsoft can close down a >>> newsgroup. They can take their servers out of the internet, >>> but the newsgroups should continue to exist on many other >>> news servers. I plan on continuing to use them just to see >>> what happens (and put off the bleep web based forum thingie >>> as long as I can). >> >> There has been some discussion in the VB groups about this. >> If MS issues an authenticated rmgroup command and it is honored by >> others, it will remove the MS heirarchies from those servers. >> >> Time will tell. >> >>> If you were connecting directly to the MS servers, then you >>> would have to find another news server to connect to. That >>> may or may not be a problem for some or many folks, but I >>> have always connected to the news service available from my >>> ISP (who contracts it out to giganews). >>> >>> The big question is how many folks will be bothered to do >>> that instead of bowing to MS and switching to the web based >>> junk. >>> >>> -- >>> Marsh >>> MVP [MS Access] >> >> > >
From: Mike Painter on 28 May 2010 18:26
Mike B wrote: <snip> > > Beyond that I don't have any personal desire to speculate the > future, but rather adopt a wait and see. I personally don't like the > forum format, but if that is all there was then, well..... > Properly managed and with features similar to what PhPBBS has it can be OK. This is especially true for the user who goes there for a single answer and subscribes to that particular thread. |