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From: Jeff Johnson on 15 Apr 2010 11:50 "Paul Clement" <UseAdddressAtEndofMessage(a)swspectrum.com> wrote in message news:vk6es5hpqseis72guonk93pu2d8455qcu2(a)4ax.com... > � Seems unusually dead here today. Heard rumors of server issues, and > � this group certainly fits that pattern...? > > Everyone is downloading Visual Basic Express Edition 2010 and Visual > Studio 2010. ;-) When the links were active, that is. I had to wait until later in the afternoon before I could start. And now back to our regularly-scheduled topic.
From: Paul Clement on 15 Apr 2010 12:16 On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:22:43 -0400, "Mayayana" <mayayana(a)invalid.nospam> wrote: � | � | Everyone is downloading Visual Basic Express Edition 2010 and Visual � Studio 2010. ;-) � | � � Funny you should mention that. There was an article � about it at the Register and I went for a look-see. � I didn't know that I'd have to get a Windows Live ID � and "register" with that to use Express. So it's free but � not free of a mark-of-the-Beast tracking collar. � � (I'm surprised "Live ID" is still kicking around. That's � just rehashed Passport. Where do people use it? Forums, MSDN, Connect, etc. � And did you know that the runtime is now approaching � 1/2 GB? The download is about 200MB. (The contents, � comprising dozens of MSIs, were too much of a mess to � dissect. So I'm just making a conservative guesstimate � that if I installed that slop it would probably take up � about 500 MB.) � � I think the bloat of .Net has reached a point where it � really should be thought of as a mini-OS in itself. � Humorously, one of the "attractive features" that reviewers � are praising for VS2010 is that one can target .Net v. 2. � So it seems the version of .Net that people are now � stuck using is almost as old as VB....unless they can talk � their customers into downloading a mini-OS. :) � Yes, you can now develop for and target an older version of the .NET Framework...which still would be newer than any version of Classic VB (and supported as well). Maybe it's time to upgrade that 20 GB hard drive, eh? ;-) Paul ~~~~ Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
From: Jeff Johnson on 15 Apr 2010 13:48 "Paul Clement" <UseAdddressAtEndofMessage(a)swspectrum.com> wrote in message news:krdes5tnmedh6elm3ugr811qo74a2g2ec3(a)4ax.com... > � I think the bloat of .Net has reached a point where it > � really should be thought of as a mini-OS in itself. > � Humorously, one of the "attractive features" that reviewers > � are praising for VS2010 is that one can target .Net v. 2. > � So it seems the version of .Net that people are now > � stuck using is almost as old as VB....unless they can talk > � their customers into downloading a mini-OS. :) > � > > Yes, you can now develop for and target an older version of the .NET > Framework... "Now"? This has been available since the prior version, VS 2008. (Just for completeness.)
From: Karl E. Peterson on 15 Apr 2010 14:10 Mayayana wrote: >> Still, weird huh? >> > I've been seeing a number of posts responding to > originals that I can't see -- for the past few days, > in more than 1 group. But I've also seen things > dropping off in general. I visit about 8 groups daily. > They're all getting slower. This and the VB.Net group, > which I "audit", are the the only ones that always have > at least some discussion every day. That does tend to happen every spring, as people crawl out of their bunkers. Then winter hits down under, and it picks up just a bit again in another month or two. <g> > Others seem to continue to wither: VBS, WSH, MSI, > WMI, shell, vb.winapi. > Maybe everyone's at Facebook. Programming is > just so 20th century. Heh, well yeah, there's that too. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Jeff Johnson on 15 Apr 2010 14:24
"Mayayana" <mayayana(a)invalid.nospam> wrote in message news:%236zvLzD3KHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I've been seeing a number of posts responding to > originals that I can't see -- for the past few days, > in more than 1 group. But I've also seen things > dropping off in general. I visit about 8 groups daily. > They're all getting slower. This and the VB.Net group, > which I "audit", are the the only ones that always have > at least some discussion every day. Agreed. The C# group seems a bit slower too, although I kind of attributed it to a general decline in NNTP usage. Hopefully Karl's "Spring Thaw" idea is the correct answer. |