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From: Keith Keller on 3 Jun 2010 01:27
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On 2010-06-03, Aragorn <aragorn(a)chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
> On Thursday 03 June 2010 00:41 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
> identifying as Baho Utot wrote...
>
>> Thinking of using an old 1995 PC that presently has an 8086 cpu with
>> built in CGA graphics, 128k RAM upgraded from 64K, running Linux
>> 2.6.18 kernel with all the trimmings. [...]

> The 8086 doesn't have a protected mode, and hence, no ability to set up
> pagetables or descriptor tables, and no privilege rings, and Linux
> requires these. So in all honesty, how did you pull that off? (Unless
> you were not being serious in that statement, which, given that you are
> responding to a troll who's not capable of being serious himself, would
> of course make sense.)

I suspect your parenthetical is accurate. Besides, the 386 chip had
been out for a few years in 1995. :) IIRC PCs based on the Pentium
chip were coming out at that point, though at my university we still had
faculty who refused to give up their IBM PCs. Ah, CGA! Those were the
days. Where's my walker?!?

--keith

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From: Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) on 3 Jun 2010 04:08
On 6/2/2010 20:36, RayLopez99 wrote:
> Thinking of using on an old 1998 laptop PC that presently has a
> Pentium II, with a built in generic Dell modem, USB mouse, 512k RAM
> (!), DVD/CD, running Windows XP fine now (very slow), some distro of
> Linux.

Do you plan to run the server 24 hours a day? A laptop is not designed
for that and it might over-heat itself and start a fire!

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From: Baho Utot on 3 Jun 2010 04:33
Aragorn wrote:

> On Thursday 03 June 2010 00:41 in comp.os.linux.setup, somebody
> identifying as Baho Utot wrote...
>
>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking of using on an old 1998 laptop PC that presently has a
>>> Pentium II, with a built in generic Dell modem, USB mouse, 512k RAM
>>> (!), DVD/CD, running Windows XP fine now (very slow), some distro of
>>> Linux.
>>>
>>> In another thread I got into a debate about what's the best distro
>>> for a simple new Acer machine ($300) that uses the Atom uP from
>>> Intel. But in this thread I just want to know if *any* Linux distro
>>> will work on such *old* hardware.
>>
>> Thinking of using an old 1995 PC that presently has an 8086 cpu with
>> built in CGA graphics, 128k RAM upgraded from 64K, running Linux
>> 2.6.18 kernel with all the trimmings. [...]
>
> I'm quite curious how you could get Linux to run on an 8086 CPU, or are
> you talking of a subset of the Linux kernel designed for embedded
> systems with such a processor?
>
> Last time I checked, Linux requires at minimum an i386-compatible
> processor in order to use the kernel for anything other than an
> embedded system that runs only a subset of the kernel code. Not even
> an i286 will do because Linux is at minimum 32-bit - 31-bit on IBM
> mainframes.
>
> The 8086 doesn't have a protected mode, and hence, no ability to set up
> pagetables or descriptor tables, and no privilege rings, and Linux
> requires these. So in all honesty, how did you pull that off? (Unless
> you were not being serious in that statement, which, given that you are
> responding to a troll who's not capable of being serious himself, would
> of course make sense.)
>

The latter of course

From: david on 3 Jun 2010 06:10
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:41:52 -0400, Baho Utot rearranged some electrons to
say:

> RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> Thinking of using on an old 1998 laptop PC that presently has a Pentium
>> II, with a built in generic Dell modem, USB mouse, 512k RAM (!),
>> DVD/CD, running Windows XP fine now (very slow), some distro of Linux.
>>
>> In another thread I got into a debate about what's the best distro for
>> a simple new Acer machine ($300) that uses the Atom uP from Intel. But
>> in this thread I just want to know if *any* Linux distro will work on
>> such *old* hardware.
>
> Thinking of using an old 1995 PC that presently has an 8086 cpu with
> built in CGA graphics, 128k RAM upgraded from 64K, running Linux 2.6.18
> kernel with all the trimmings. Blender just flies. Will windows 7
> work? I just want to know if any current windows version will work on
> this *old* hardware.
>
> Later dude.

you'll have to use an embedded version of Linux for the 8086.
From: AZ Nomad on 4 Jun 2010 14:50
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 05:36:54 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99 <raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>Thinking of using on an old 1998 laptop PC that presently has a
>Pentium II, with a built in generic Dell modem, USB mouse, 512k RAM
>(!), DVD/CD, running Windows XP fine now (very slow), some distro of
>Linux.

You aren't reporting the hardware accurately. No pentium 2 was ever sold
with less than 32M of ram.
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