From: RayLopez99 on
On Jun 4, 5:28 pm, Mike Easter <Mi...(a)ster.invalid> wrote:
> Sjouke Burry wrote:
> > Besides the speed, I dont like the amount of questions to answer
> > at each boot.
>
> When/If you boot puppy from the live CD, when you prepare to shutdown,
> you are provided with options to save your personal settings and files
> to hdd, zip, usb, floppy.  The hdd can be any partition, any kind of
> format including NTFS.
>
> The saved file, pup_save.2fs has a ext2 filesystem inside of it.
>
> Naturally if you choose to shutdown without saving anything, then puppy
> has to start from scratch (so to speak :-) when it is booted again.
>
> If you install puppy on something, then it will be more pre-rigged than
> a live CD.
>
> --
> Mike Easter

Mike: for now I'm sticking with DSL...but I'll keep you posted if it
doesn't work. Tx for your help so far.

Ray

Just an update: I don't badmouth things unless they are usually
really bad, unless I'm just trolling, in which case anybody with half
a brain can figure out when that is. Obviously this is not one of
those times.

Just finally *did* get the damn mouse recognized by DSL--when I bought
a USB mouse. Amazing. Now I'm in the GUI, and they even have a
dialup modem 'wizard' of sorts, though it does not use mouse commands,
you have to tab and use the space key to switch between options shown
in the window, but I can live with that if it works. I'm not
optimistic I can surf the net through DSL, but we'll see. Firebox
also 'works' (loads).

To be continued...
RL
From: JEDIDIAH on
On 2010-06-04, Rick <none(a)mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:14:35 -0700, RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> On Jun 4, 3:00 am, Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulf...(a)ppllaanneett.nnll>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Downloaded puppy, Had some trouble to to tell it the ethernet
>>> configuration, after that , it worked...... Sort of. It takes 3-4
>>> minutes to start, an appears to hang in some places, but that is just
>>> to fool you.
>>> Besides the speed, I dont like the amount of questions to answer at
>>> each boot.
>>
>> Sounds reasonable. Linux is hobbyware after all. (snip)
>
> No, it isn't.

....it's the "Big Lie" approach.

[deletia]

--
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/ | \
That way leads to lawyers and business megacorps and credit cards!
From: Mike Easter on
RayLopez99 wrote:
User-Agent: G2/1.0
> Mike Easter

>> --
>> Mike Easter

When you post with GG, you have to do things like sig trimming manually.
That is, while you are trimming, which you should do instead of bottom
posting untrimmed, you should also trim the sig.

> Mike: for now I'm sticking with DSL...but I'll keep you posted if it
> doesn't work. Tx for your help so far.

DSL is fine. IMO it is a very different distro from Puppy. The two are
only similar in that they are light distros. Puppy's developer has a
different idea of where he is going than DSL's does.

> Just an update: I don't badmouth things unless they are usually
> really bad, unless I'm just trolling, in which case anybody with half
> a brain can figure out when that is. Obviously this is not one of
> those times.

However; you are very prone to be using old and b0rken/erratic hardware
which doesn't run anything worth a sh*t *INCLUDING* any kind of windows.
Then, when you are struggling with the hardware, you tend to blame -
badmouth - whichever linux you are messing with and linux in general.

I have old/bad hardware like that, so I know. Typically I run linux and
win 98 on ancient hardware; linux and WinXP on less ancient.

If you are genuinely interested in using linux, you should rig up some
dual boots where you are using linux and windows on similar hardware, as
I described above, not just old b0rken stuff. New hardware with
Vista/Win7 and a linux or two. Older/ Less new/ hardware with XP and a
linux or two. Really old hardware with W98 and a linux like DSL or
Puppy or Vector or other light distros.

You are creating ugly adverse hardware situations and then badmouthing
linux when/because you don't have any linux skills like how to get out
of situations with the commandline. That creates a very
adverse/difficult environment and it is going to get in the way of your
learning some linux things which would be valuable.

There are a lot of linux helpers who are maestros with the commandline
for fixing things. There are other helpers who are less skilled with
commandline solutions but are linux-skilled with graphical solutions.

It is especially nice when someone is helping you who is familiar with
both and can give you a quick answer in the form of a commandline or an
awkward long answer in the form of a graphical tool solution.

However, your approach to this linux issue alienates a lot of linux
helpers who surely consider you to be a total troll which is what a
great deal of your posting history consists of.

> you have to tab and use the space key to switch between options shown
> in the window,

You act like that tabbing requirement is important - a handicap - or
something.

> but I can live with that if it works. I'm not
> optimistic I can surf the net through DSL, but we'll see.

It sounds like you are confusing/saying DSL broadband with/ instead of/
dialup not broadband.


--
Mike Easter
From: RayLopez99 on
On Jun 4, 4:44 pm, Snit <use...(a)gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
.
>
> RL is for Ray Lopez.
>
> Not exactly hard to figure out!
>
> --
> [INSERT .SIG HERE]

LOL. for (TH)ick it is!

I did finally get DSL Linux loaded, it recognized my USB mouse (unlike
the PS/2 mouse) and I'm ready to test the dial-up modem. The dialup
modem wizard is pre-mouse: you need to Tab and Space keys to do
anything. But if it works, I'll be "pleasantly surprised" in the same
way you're "pleasantly surprised" if you don't get food poisoning
after eating at a run-down greasy spoon interstate diner.

RL
From: RayLopez99 on
On Jun 4, 5:28 pm, Mike Easter <Mi...(a)ster.invalid> wrote:
> Sjouke Burry wrote:
> > Besides the speed, I dont like the amount of questions to answer
> > at each boot.
>
> When/If you boot puppy from the live CD, when you prepare to shutdown,
> you are provided with options to save your personal settings and files
> to hdd, zip, usb, floppy.  The hdd can be any partition, any kind of
> format including NTFS.
>
> The saved file, pup_save.2fs has a ext2 filesystem inside of it.
>
> Naturally if you choose to shutdown without saving anything, then puppy
> has to start from scratch (so to speak :-) when it is booted again.
>
> If you install puppy on something, then it will be more pre-rigged than
> a live CD.
>
> --
> Mike Easter

Thanks for that. Now, if and when I get DSL Linux to work with my
dialup modem (I found a 'pay by the minute'--9 cents USD a minute--
site here in Athens, GR to test it on), the real question will be: DSL
or Puppy Linux for this old system? I hate to get rid of DSL-which
has some variant of Firefox on it--if it works..."if it ain't broke
don't fix it". But let's see if it works first...

RL
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