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From: Nix on 31 Jan 2010 13:19 On 30 Jan 2010, Tony van der Hoff outgrape: > Modern implementations of X server auto-configure using > udev. Unless Ubuntu's gone very bleeding edge this is not true. Current released X's autoconfigure in two ways: - the display hardware is directly probed, either by X, or (if kernel modesetting is in use) by the kernel. Preferred display resolutions, pixel clocks et seq (the stuff modelines used to cover) are acquired directly from the monitor via EDID. - input devices are acquired from HAL. Support for udev has just been dropped in upstream, eliminating the need to learn how to write the horrible .fdi quirks files (udev is very much nicer).
From: Folderol on 31 Jan 2010 13:51 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:19:47 +0000 Nix <nix-razor-pit(a)esperi.org.uk> wrote: <snip> > - input devices are acquired from HAL. Support for udev has just been > dropped in upstream, eliminating the need to learn how to write the > horrible .fdi quirks files (udev is very much nicer). I was following fine up to here :( -- Will J G
From: Tony Houghton on 31 Jan 2010 14:13 In <87ljfe5e7w.fsf(a)spindle.srvr.nix>, Nix <nix-razor-pit(a)esperi.org.uk> wrote: > - input devices are acquired from HAL. Support for udev has just been > dropped in upstream, eliminating the need to learn how to write the > horrible .fdi quirks files (udev is very much nicer). Do you mean HAL has been replaced by udev support? I think this version has been in Debian unstable for a while (I was using FDI rules for one of my input devices so I had to find an alternative way of stopping X from responding to it) so it can't be that bleeding edge ;-). -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk
From: Mark Hobley on 31 Jan 2010 15:08 Simon Brooke <stillyet+nntp(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > I actually don't care whether I use the Intel driver (yes I know it's > proprietary) Actually xserver-xorg-video-intel is an open source driver, and should work really well even with 3d accelerated graphics. Mark. -- Mark Hobley Linux User: #370818 http://markhobley.yi.org/
From: Theo Markettos on 31 Jan 2010 17:32
Nix <nix-razor-pit(a)esperi.org.uk> wrote: > - the display hardware is directly probed, either by X, or (if kernel > modesetting is in use) by the kernel. Preferred display resolutions, > pixel clocks et seq (the stuff modelines used to cover) are acquired > directly from the monitor via EDID. On the subject, is there any way to force the monitor settings? I was giving a presentation from my netbook, but it turned out the projector didn't do EDID so I couldn't tell it there was anything attached. I had to run off down the corridor, find a CRT monitor that would detect EDID, then pull out the VGA cable, run back down the corridor and plug in the projector. I have a few old CRTs that don't to it either. I can't find any way (on UNR 9.04 on a Dell Mini 9) to say 'I have another monitor, please do standard VGA/SVGA/etc on it'. Theo |