Anyone using 'extra' mouse buttons?
in [Solaris]
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From: Colin B. on 17 Mar 2010 14:18 Richard L. Hamilton <rlhamil(a)smart.net> wrote: > In article <hlkm5j$n1b$1(a)reader2.panix.com>, > dkcombs(a)panix.com (David Combs) writes: >> In article <N0Pdn.8391$YR1.1268(a)newsfe17.iad>, >> Richard L. Hamilton <rlhamil(a)smart.net> wrote: >>>In article <hkvk80$qd3$2(a)reader2.panix.com>, >>> dkcombs(a)panix.com (David Combs) writes: >>>[...] >>>> Right now I'm using Windows XP with a Microsoft mouse that, >>>> on top, has a LEFT, a wheel, and a RIGHT, and one more on >>>> each side (on each vertical wall of the mouse). >>>> >>>> Those final two work for going fwd and backward in eg firefox. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I[f] stupid MS can have these things working ok, why the H. can't >>>> sun! Maybe we should complain to that guy who runs Oracle? >>>[...] >>> >> ... >> ... >> >>> >>>I would not however expect Sun (Oracle), or even RedHat to pay >>>for most of that though; and for sure, the makers of the fancy >>>input device wouldn't bother, since they make 99% of their money >>>from Windows users. I'd expect that most of the initial work >>>would be done by individuals, just because they want it to happen >>>and think they know enough to get it done sooner themselves. >>> >>>You could be one of those individuals. Or you could offer a >>>bounty to someone to do the work. Maybe you're hoping that if >>>you're annoying enough, someone will do it just to get you to >>>_shut_up_. Tempting, but I'm sorry to say it takes less time >>>(and is about as much fun) to tell you where to get off than it >>>would take to implement a solution to your problem, which is so >>>not _my_ problem because I don't work for Sun/Oracle, and I don't >>>own a five button mouse... >> >> Thanks for the clear explanation! >> >> You might not have a 5-button mouse, but once you tried one, you'd >> sure like it. Makes browsing so much easier -- go back just by >> clicking the "button" (long) along the left wall, and back >> forward again by the one on the right wall. >> >> Sure beats having to move the mouse up to those arrows at the >> upper left corner of the screen. >> >> And the wheel is *really* nice. >> >> Now, I bet (well, hope) sun DOES support that, the wheel? > > Solaris has supported vertical scroll for a long time, the same way > Linux does (steps of the wheel up/down correspond to clicks of > a fictional 4th/5th button, although I may have that backwards). > > Not sure whether or not they implemented support for _horizontal_ > scrolling, which pretends to use buttons 6 and 7 similarly. The vertical scrolling does indeed work as advertised. Horizontal scrolling in Solaris doesn't. I have a Logitech MX620 here (best mouse ever - but still not perfect), and find the following works: - mouse movement - left, right, and centre buttons - vertical scroll What doesn't work is: - horizontal scroll - forward/back buttons on the side under the thumb - the 'magnifier' button I'm sharing my keyboard and mouse with other machines (running Windows) via synergy (http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/) and none of the non-working signals are passed to the other machines either. Presumably the buttons/features on more complicated mice would fail as well. Colin
From: David Combs on 25 Mar 2010 02:35
In article <729on.260548$OX4.71232(a)newsfe25.iad>, Colin B. <cbigam(a)somewhereelse.shaw.ca> wrote: >Richard L. Hamilton <rlhamil(a)smart.net> wrote: >> In article <hlkm5j$n1b$1(a)reader2.panix.com>, >> dkcombs(a)panix.com (David Combs) writes: >>> In article <N0Pdn.8391$YR1.1268(a)newsfe17.iad>, >>> Richard L. Hamilton <rlhamil(a)smart.net> wrote: >>>>In article <hkvk80$qd3$2(a)reader2.panix.com>, >>>> dkcombs(a)panix.com (David Combs) writes: >>>>[...] >>>>> Right now I'm using Windows XP with a Microsoft mouse that, >>>>> on top, has a LEFT, a wheel, and a RIGHT, and one more on >>>>> each side (on each vertical wall of the mouse). >>>>> >>>>> Those final two work for going fwd and backward in eg firefox. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I[f] stupid MS can have these things working ok, why the H. can't >>>>> sun! Maybe we should complain to that guy who runs Oracle? >>>>[...] >>>> >>> ... >>> ... >>> >>>> >>>>I would not however expect Sun (Oracle), or even RedHat to pay >>>>for most of that though; and for sure, the makers of the fancy >>>>input device wouldn't bother, since they make 99% of their money >>>>from Windows users. I'd expect that most of the initial work >>>>would be done by individuals, just because they want it to happen >>>>and think they know enough to get it done sooner themselves. >>>> >>>>You could be one of those individuals. Or you could offer a >>>>bounty to someone to do the work. Maybe you're hoping that if >>>>you're annoying enough, someone will do it just to get you to >>>>_shut_up_. Tempting, but I'm sorry to say it takes less time >>>>(and is about as much fun) to tell you where to get off than it >>>>would take to implement a solution to your problem, which is so >>>>not _my_ problem because I don't work for Sun/Oracle, and I don't >>>>own a five button mouse... >>> >>> Thanks for the clear explanation! >>> >>> You might not have a 5-button mouse, but once you tried one, you'd >>> sure like it. Makes browsing so much easier -- go back just by >>> clicking the "button" (long) along the left wall, and back >>> forward again by the one on the right wall. >>> >>> Sure beats having to move the mouse up to those arrows at the >>> upper left corner of the screen. >>> >>> And the wheel is *really* nice. >>> >>> Now, I bet (well, hope) sun DOES support that, the wheel? >> >> Solaris has supported vertical scroll for a long time, the same way >> Linux does (steps of the wheel up/down correspond to clicks of >> a fictional 4th/5th button, although I may have that backwards). >> >> Not sure whether or not they implemented support for _horizontal_ >> scrolling, which pretends to use buttons 6 and 7 similarly. > >The vertical scrolling does indeed work as advertised. Horizontal >scrolling in Solaris doesn't. I have a Logitech MX620 here (best mouse >ever - but still not perfect), and find the following works: > >- mouse movement >- left, right, and centre buttons >- vertical scroll > >What doesn't work is: >- horizontal scroll >- forward/back buttons on the side under the thumb >- the 'magnifier' button > >I'm sharing my keyboard and mouse with other machines (running Windows) >via synergy (http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/) and none of the non-working >signals are passed to the other machines either. > >Presumably the buttons/features on more complicated mice would fail >as well. > >Colin What would it take to hack -- what, the driver for solaris? -- so that the fwd and backward (for firefox) WOULD work. That feature is SO valuable (as I use it here on a cheap Dell). (Keep saying I'll take the mouse upstairs to the blade-2500, but haven't gotten around to it yet.) David |