From: Steve Holden on 12 Mar 2010 08:07 Neo wrote: > I have learned java for half a year and now I want to learn Python, > should I learn python 3k or the traditional version? > That depends on whether you need to use specific libraries that haven't yet been ported to Python 3. If so then start with Python 2. If not, start with 3 - the differences are small enough that you can relatively easily fall back to 2 if you need to get access to non-ported libraries. regards Steve > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:19 AM, kj <no.email(a)please.post> wrote: > > > > > Subject line pretty much says it all: is there a book like "Effective > Java" for Python. I.e. a book that assumes that readers are > experienced programmers that already know the basics of the language, > and want to focus on more advanced programming issues? > > ~K > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 See PyCon Talks from Atlanta 2010 http://pycon.blip.tv/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ UPCOMING EVENTS: http://holdenweb.eventbrite.com/
From: Gabriel Rossetti on 12 Mar 2010 10:50 kj wrote: > > Subject line pretty much says it all: is there a book like "Effective > Java" for Python. I.e. a book that assumes that readers are > experienced programmers that already know the basics of the language, > and want to focus on more advanced programming issues? > > ~K > Effective Java is a good book, it is not like most people responding to this topic a "how to program in Java" book but a "I know how to program in Python, but I want it to run fast and use a minimal amount of memory". I would have liked to have such a book for Python when I was past the language learning stage. Gabriel
From: John Bokma on 12 Mar 2010 15:36 Gabriel Rossetti <gabriel.rossetti(a)arimaz.com> writes: > kj wrote: >> >> Subject line pretty much says it all: is there a book like "Effective >> Java" for Python. I.e. a book that assumes that readers are >> experienced programmers that already know the basics of the language, >> and want to focus on more advanced programming issues? > > Effective Java is a good book, it is not like most people responding > to this topic a "how to program in Java" I had more the feeling that these responses were more of the "Look, you actually need a book to learn how to program effectively in Java *snigger*" fanboism. > book but a "I know how to program in Python, but I want it to run fast > and use a minimal amount of memory". > I would have liked to have such a book for Python when I was past the > language learning stage. High Performance Python by Anthony Lewis (Author), et al. (*snigger*!) might be such a book but we have to wait a few more months: Publisher: O'Reilly Media; 1 edition (September 15, 2010) (It has been on my wish list for several months) To the OP: right now, Dive into Python is clearly written with people who have experience with programming in mind. I've both the Python 2 and Python 3 version (books). You can download a version of each for free: http://www.google.com/search?q=dive%20into%20python -- John Bokma j3b Hacking & Hiking in Mexico - http://johnbokma.com/ http://castleamber.com/ - Perl & Python Development
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