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From: Warren Oates on 23 Apr 2010 07:35 In article <alpine.OSX.2.00.1004222049590.30443(a)olympe.ewd.goldmark.org>, Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody(a)goldmark.org> wrote: > I'm on a Mac Pro (Early 2009) Quad Core Xeon 2.66 GHz and > NVIDIA GeForce GT 120. I've got two empty disk bays to spare. Currently > the machine has 5G memory. I use Virtual Box with that hardware set up (NVIDIA GeForce 7300). I use XP Pro, though, so YM, as they say, MV. My Windows runs well under Virtual Box, which is free. I don't keep Windows on its own drive or even partition. <http://www.virtualbox.org/> For your purposes, I'd look into Boot Camp, if it supports Win 7, or even a cheap wintel-ish laptop ... Careful you don't develop apostate cancer. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: Davoud on 23 Apr 2010 09:19 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > No, I haven't found Jesus, but what I'm going to announce may be more > shocking. And it will work its way around to a perfectly on-topic > question. For those who doubt, the on-topic question will be opinions of > Parallels vs Fusion. > > OK, so here goes: I am going to purchase a copy of Windows 7. That's not apostasy. That's using the tool that you need to do the job at hand. > ... > Anyway, I would like to hear experiences of using Parallels or Fusion or > alternatives. I'm on a Mac Pro (Early 2009) Quad Core Xeon 2.66 GHz and > NVIDIA GeForce GT 120. I've got two empty disk bays to spare. Currently > the machine has 5G memory. Both work OK. I started out with Parallels, but switched to Fusion after getting a good price on two copies (XP Pro on two MB Pro's). It was as good as Parallels. Then I recently got a good deal on a Parallels upgrade, so I decided to try it again. Whoa! _Much_ better than Fusion on my MB Pro! I just got a new MB Pro -- patience rewarded :) and I need to put Windows on it. Guess I'll go with W7, even though I'm comfortable with XP Pro. And I'll buy another copy of Parallels. > Is there anything I need to watch out for with this approach? Other than keeping your anti-malware up to date on Windows!? Davoud -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
From: Davoud on 23 Apr 2010 09:21 Lewis: > The only reason to use BootCamp is for gaming. And astronomical image processing and lots of other processor-intensive tasks. Do you think that your little life is all there is to the Universe? Davoud -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 23 Apr 2010 12:46 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > [...] > Anyway, I would like to hear experiences of using Parallels or Fusion or > alternatives. I'm on a Mac Pro (Early 2009) Quad Core Xeon 2.66 GHz and > NVIDIA GeForce GT 120. I've got two empty disk bays to spare. Currently > the machine has 5G memory. Probably you also will need to run SnowLeopard... If so I'm not sure that Parallels yet is the best, neither Fusion.... I myself is also running on a MacPro QuadCore 2,66ghz (sep.07) still only 10.5.8 and Paralles 3.x + WinXp Pro. I've been running this set up both with a bootable XPPro, but for the moment only a virtual install, cause one of my disks broke... So far I'm satisfied with the PD 3.x, but have read too much bad about the new ver. 5.x that I for the moment won't recommend it. - such as loss of network, loss of shared disks, loss of external FW disks etc.... My XPPro is installed on a 120gb NTFS image file and since then I haven't had a single breadk-down of XPPro nor loss of connections or shared disks. - The bad here is that PD 3.x won't run on SnowLeopard, so I'm forced to either upgrade to PD 5.x or find another solution... Here I'm now looking at the latest ver. of VirtualBox instead. It looks rather promising and their earlier problems with shared disks (ext. FW) seem to be solved. - And VirtualBox is freeware!. One real great thing with Parallels is that it contains a firewall which is really effective. > Is there anything I need to watch out for with this approach? If you want a bootable Win7 I'll strongly recommend to use NTFS as the file structure and not FAT32. SnowLeoaprd should be able to directly access both read/write to NTFS or NTFS-3G, but I still will recommend to get either the free NTFS-3G driver or buy the Paragon NTFS driver. I use the Paragon driver and it works really fine on my machine. You shouldn't have problems with the gfx. card, since Win-drivers are included in BootCamp. - Also most external FW and USB drives shouldn't be the problem, since drivers mostly also are included with BootCamp - or else you probably will have them on accompagned CDs with the drives... One thing more to DO REMEMBER... Be sure to install an antivirusapplication on the Windows 7. - It is a MUST! For this I'll recommend the Czech application 'Avast!'. It is free for home users - else it's rather cheap and secure. Avast! also has the possibility of being able to protect shared disks and Mac OS disks when booted in Windows. - And it also watches inbox files in a mail application, which not many other AV apps do. VirtualBox 3.1.6 (freeware) http://www.virtualbox.org/ Paragon NTFS 8.0 (shareware, upd. 4/16/2010) http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/34187 NTFS-3G 2010.1.16 (freeware) http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10913782 Avast Free Antivirus 5.0.507 (freeware/shareware) http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download OK, you can download trial versions of both Parallels 5.x and Fusion and try each out before deciding if you want to spend the money or maybe instead use VirtualBox... Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Wes Groleau on 23 Apr 2010 13:05 On 04-22-2010 22:14, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > Anyway, I would like to hear experiences of using Parallels or Fusion or > alternatives. For what it's worth: 1. On my job, we use VMWare (under Windows) to host hundreds of virtual machines, for working with different operating systems, different software sets, etc. Several of us have found several VM configurations that can consistently crash the host. 2. On Windows, I greatly detest VMWare's need to periodically spend an hour defragmenting the guest OS drive, then another hour having VMWare defrag the VM, then another hour having the host defrag the drive containing the VM file(s). 3. I installed Windows XP in a copy of Virtual PC on a one gigaHertz G4 with Tiger. While it was certainly no speed demon, it's performance was much better than I was expecting. Makes me want to test Virtual PC 7 on my Intel with Snow Leopard. -- Wes Groleau A short talk on children and education http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1593
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