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From: Zerkon on 28 Jun 2010 08:47
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:25:14 -0700, Immortalist wrote:

> Humans have different kinds of access to the mental and the physical in
> terms of the differences between the "a realm of appearances" as
> distinct from reality. In that context there is a distinct realm of
> appearances because the mental, which includes ideas or representations
> which have the epistemological status of appearances, itself constitutes
> a distinct realm.
>
> Each of us has direct access to our own states of mind in a way that we
> do not to the physical. The mental thus involves so-called privileged
> access.
>
> If we have direct access only to the mental, then ..

we go literally and clinically insane. We must maintain sensory access.

where is the proof that all things that interact with the environment,
from butterflies to virus, do not also interact with representations of
the environment? Or do we believe they all experience this described
separate state of reality that we tragic humans can only think about?

Since the simple mechanics of mental representations can only come from
reality, however this is defined, at what point does reality take a hike
and become some far off land of the high elves of truth?

We do not have only direct access to reality by mental representations.
We eat the and drink the stuff. We can not walk through some of it, we
swim and breath some of it. We bleed it.

Thought is relative busy work and when turned upon itself it's realm gets
damn silly.

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