From: Bruce Horrocks on
On 08/07/2010 22:42, Gavin wrote:
> On 2010-07-08 22:17:30 +0100, Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> said:
>
>> On 08/07/2010 12:06, Gavsta wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend anyone that can provide hardware leasing to a
>>> company I work for.
>>>
>>> They dont want to invest in buying a lot of Apple kit but want to try
>>> a 6month - 1 year lease to see if its right for them before they
>>> commit.
>>
>> Leasing for that length of time would cost more than buying outright.
>
> Not according to the website posted below it isnt.

Isn't it?

13" MacBook Pro is quoted at �9.25/week "...based on three year
agreement with ownership option at the expiry for �39". So that works
out at �9.25 x 52 x 3 + �39 = �1482 to own something that costs �850 +
VAT on the Apple store.

Shorter leases will be proportionately more and from previous
experience, admittedly quite a few years ago now and on slightly more
esoteric kit, the cost of leasing exceeded that of buying at about 4
months on the headline price and 6 months when tax benefits were taken
into account.

However, the important thing is that I should hush my mouth and fully
support Gavsta in his efforts to get his employers to switch to Macs.
I'm sure they will find them indispensable after only a month or two and
then will find themselves stuck with a lease... Ow, stop kicking me.

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
From: Gavin on
On 2010-07-08 23:20:12 +0100, Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> said:

> On 08/07/2010 22:42, Gavin wrote:
>> On 2010-07-08 22:17:30 +0100, Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> said:
>>
>>> On 08/07/2010 12:06, Gavsta wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone recommend anyone that can provide hardware leasing to a
>>>> company I work for.
>>>>
>>>> They dont want to invest in buying a lot of Apple kit but want to try
>>>> a 6month - 1 year lease to see if its right for them before they
>>>> commit.
>>>
>>> Leasing for that length of time would cost more than buying outright.
>>
>> Not according to the website posted below it isnt.
>
> Isn't it?
>
> 13" MacBook Pro is quoted at £9.25/week "...based on three year
> agreement with ownership option at the expiry for £39". So that works
> out at £9.25 x 52 x 3 + £39 = £1482 to own something that costs £850 +
> VAT on the Apple store.
>
> Shorter leases will be proportionately more and from previous
> experience, admittedly quite a few years ago now and on slightly more
> esoteric kit, the cost of leasing exceeded that of buying at about 4
> months on the headline price and 6 months when tax benefits were taken
> into account.
>
> However, the important thing is that I should hush my mouth and fully
> support Gavsta in his efforts to get his employers to switch to Macs.
> I'm sure they will find them indispensable after only a month or two
> and then will find themselves stuck with a lease... Ow, stop kicking me.

I havent looked in depth yet as I have been too busy, but as they only
want a max of a 1 year Lease, where does the 3 years come in?

Also, they are not my "employers", they are a site I work for, of many
sites I also work for.

Moneys not really the issue, its the being lumbered with the kit they
dont want.

--
Gavin.  ACSP 10.5
http://www.stoof.co.uk
http://www.twitter.com/gavin_wilby

From: whisky-dave on

"Gavin" <gwilbyREMOVE(a)stoof.co.uk> wrote in message
news:i15k3d$n5p$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On 2010-07-08 23:20:12 +0100, Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> said:
>
>> On 08/07/2010 22:42, Gavin wrote:
>>> On 2010-07-08 22:17:30 +0100, Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> On 08/07/2010 12:06, Gavsta wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone recommend anyone that can provide hardware leasing to a
>>>>> company I work for.
>>>>>
>>>>> They dont want to invest in buying a lot of Apple kit but want to try
>>>>> a 6month - 1 year lease to see if its right for them before they
>>>>> commit.
>>>>
>>>> Leasing for that length of time would cost more than buying outright.
>>>
>>> Not according to the website posted below it isnt.
>>
>> Isn't it?
>>
>> 13" MacBook Pro is quoted at �9.25/week "...based on three year agreement
>> with ownership option at the expiry for �39". So that works out at �9.25
>> x 52 x 3 + �39 = �1482 to own something that costs �850 + VAT on the
>> Apple store.
>>
>> Shorter leases will be proportionately more and from previous experience,
>> admittedly quite a few years ago now and on slightly more esoteric kit,
>> the cost of leasing exceeded that of buying at about 4 months on the
>> headline price and 6 months when tax benefits were taken into account.
>>
>> However, the important thing is that I should hush my mouth and fully
>> support Gavsta in his efforts to get his employers to switch to Macs. I'm
>> sure they will find them indispensable after only a month or two and then
>> will find themselves stuck with a lease... Ow, stop kicking me.
>
> I havent looked in depth yet as I have been too busy, but as they only
> want a max of a 1 year Lease, where does the 3 years come in?
>
> Also, they are not my "employers", they are a site I work for, of many
> sites I also work for.
>
> Moneys not really the issue, its the being lumbered with the kit they dont
> want.

Then why don;t they the kit then you can offer to sell it off when they have
finished. I'm sure you or anyone else could make a nice little earner out of
thatOr depending on how much rent they'll pay couldn't you or anyone buy the
kit, then rent it out to them.
Might be too much hassle though.



From: zoara on
Gavin <gwilbyREMOVE(a)stoof.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Moneys not really the issue, its the being lumbered with the kit they
> dont want.

If money's really not the issue, suggest they buy outright and offer to
dispose of it for them at no cost if they don't want it.

Alternatively, you could suggest they buy outright and you will buy off
them if they don't want it... at a rate which means their eventual costs
are far lower than if they'd leased, and you'd still turn a profit from
the resale value on eBay.

If it's the upfront costs they're worried about, buy the kit yourself
and lease it to them! Even on credit you'd likely still make a profit.

-z-

--
email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: Bruce Horrocks on
On 08/07/2010 23:39, Gavin wrote:
>
> I havent looked in depth yet as I have been too busy, but as they only
> want a max of a 1 year Lease, where does the 3 years come in?

The 3 years comes in because that is the period for which the headline
prices on the site apply for. They didn't appear to have prices for
shorter periods so I wasn't able to give six months and one year
comparisons that you are after.

> Also, they are not my "employers", they are a site I work for, of many
> sites I also work for.

Sorry - I was thinking Gavin and Gavsta were different people.

> Moneys not really the issue, its the being lumbered with the kit they
> dont want.

In that case, the site posted seems as good as any other.

Regards,
--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)