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From: David H. Lipman on 11 Aug 2010 19:47 From: "Teflon" <spambaitmeister(a)gmail.com> | On Aug 11, 2:04 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...(a)Verizon.Net> | wrote: >> Your definition of malware does not count. As a Google Grouper you already have low >> credibility. >> One of my fields is malware. Not the assumption of malware but real malcious software >> as >> being the true definition of malware. >> What you have described is not malware and for you to go any further, provide an >> obfuscated URL that the shortcut was using. | 'obfuscated'? WOW, that's a big word Dave. Be careful, there are 6th | graders trying to read this group. | I guess you didn't see my post's reference to - www.adon-demand.de/red/2303/ | - the URL that was behind the eBay icon downloaded by either FoxIt or | Opera. The obvious intent was to get a user to click on the eBay | icon, thinking it would take them to eBay, but instead, take them to | another website. According to Webster, that is a classic definition | of 'obfuscated'. | Seems 'Reading Comprehension' isn't one of your 'fields' - nor is | Spelling. 'Malicious' is how you spell that word. Thought you would | want to know, since that's your 'field'. | A happy Google Grouper here. Yes, "obfuscated URL". A term I have used for a number of years on Usenet and it has NOTHING to do with eBay being the name of a ShortCut and and the URL of a eBay partner. An "obfuscated URL" is a URL that is modified to make the URL human readable and not clickable such as hxxp://www.google.com or h**p://www.google.com I'm glad you can deal with polysyllabic words, just too bad they shoot right over your Texas head. As for my spelling and grammar, yeah, they are attrocious. While I care to a certain degree, I don't when it comes to Usenet. Neither cxhange the fact that Google Groupers don't understand the Internet, and certainly not Usenet so coming to a faux conclusion about malware is not afr off the target. Yrrah was right from the start. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Teflon on 11 Aug 2010 20:42 On Aug 11, 4:47 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...(a)Verizon.Net> wrote: > Yes, "obfuscated URL". A term I have used for a number of years on Usenet and it has > NOTHING to do with eBay being the name of a ShortCut and and the URL of a eBay partner. > Just so you don't get yourself further wrapped up in your shorts, it wasn't a short cut and it wasn't named eBay. (It's that reading comprehension thing again, isn't it.) The malware referenced was a trusted Icon (eBay's) used to trick a naive user into clicking on a malicious active link. The active URL linked to that Icon is NOT an eBay partner. > An "obfuscated URL" is a URL that is modified to make the URL human readable and not > clickable such as hxxp://www.google.comor h**p://www.google.com Well then, if an "obfuscated URL" is not an active link, it couldn't possibly be malware, now could it? I thought you were the malware expert here. I'm quickly losing faith in your expertise. You must be an obfuscator. > I'm glad you can deal with polysyllabic words, just too bad they shoot right over your > Texas head. Texas? I'm from Texas? I think most Texans would find those to be fighting words. I am NOT from Texas - though, there's nothing wrong with being from Texas. > As for my spelling and grammar, yeah, they are attrocious. Perhaps your 7th grade teacher can recommend some remedial courses for you next year.
From: Shadow on 11 Aug 2010 21:37 On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 17:48:52 -0400, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote: >>| However, after all was installed, I noticed an eBay icon on the >>| desktop that I had not put there. >I'm sorry -- Where is the malware ? I believe he described it a few lines above. "An eBay icon I DID NOT PUT THERE". Everyone here also forgotten the definition of malware ? If this is the David Lipman that posted for years in the anti-virus/malware groups, I'm surprised you had to ask. Look up the softpedia definition of ad/malware. VLC is one of the last true big freeware programs left, but I noted that even they are leaving their phone-home boxes checked by default now. []'s The PC at the hospital I work at has some 20 toolbars and a lot of other "useful" add-ons installed by innocent users. On more that one occasion it really fsckd up a medical emergency, its almost impossible to find the search bar, and when you manage to type in the poison's commercial name, you get flooded with ads for rat-killers and insecticides. No antidotes. Now THAT is malware.
From: What's in a Name? on 13 Aug 2010 00:52 On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 03:15:15 +0800, Teflon <spambaitmeister(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm sorry -- Where is the malware ? >> You ask if FoxIt and Opera are known to be malwrae distributers (and >> you state that ONLY >> in the subject and failed to put that in the body of your post) and >> fail to provide and >> information or evidence of "malware". >> > > Excuse me, Dave, no where in my post did I 'state' that FoxIt and > Opera were malware distributors. I merely asked a question, which is > considerably different from making a statement. Therefore, your > defense of these two vendors may be premature. > > As to the malware that prompted the question, I guess that depends on > your definition of malware. My definition would include any uninvited > thing put on my system that deviously masks its ultimate purpose > behind a guise of legitimacy. The eBay icon, that is actually a > pointer to a website that is NOT eBay, fits that definition to a tee. > Now if you enjoy playing these 'I wonder where this link will take me' > games, then you probably would not define that as malware. > >> Neither FoxIt or Opera are known to distribute malware! > > Per your definition of malware, not mine. > since I started using linux, I have yet to see this behavior. As a matter of fact, there is nothing on my desktop that I didn't put there. -- This message was created using Opera on Puppy Linux I'm Max Wachtel and I approve this message. Registered Linux User #393236
From: Franklin on 13 Aug 2010 17:07
Bear_Bottoms wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:54:17 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: > >> Foragers sniffed up my web site with Opera. Hummer says they also >> did him. > > Was it version 9.80? Cos if it was, it was za kAT, and he's slam > dunked!!!! Mr Bottoms, I have let the team know you need some assistance someone should be along soon. |